Overunity.com Archives is Temporarily on Read Mode Only!



Free Energy will change the World - Free Energy will stop Climate Change - Free Energy will give us hope
and we will not surrender until free energy will be enabled all over the world, to power planes, cars, ships and trains.
Free energy will help the poor to become independent of needing expensive fuels.
So all in all Free energy will bring far more peace to the world than any other invention has already brought to the world.
Those beautiful words were written by Stefan Hartmann/Owner/Admin at overunity.com
Unfortunately now, Stefan Hartmann is very ill and He needs our help
Stefan wanted that I have all these massive data to get it back online
even being as ill as Stefan is, he transferred all databases and folders
that without his help, this Forum Archives would have never been published here
so, please, as the Webmaster and Creator of these Archives, I am asking that you help him
by making a donation on the Paypal Button above.
You can visit us or register at my main site at:
Overunity Machines Forum



Ultimate proof of Magnetic Vortex, free book and videos

Started by TheoriaApophasis, July 13, 2014, 04:20:12 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 13 Guests are viewing this topic.

sadang

I see here the same problem exposed in many posts. The circular thinking, without anyone sensing they think in circular way. All talk about mass and associate it with matter. Others goes a bit deeper but on the same path of thinking and talk about momentum for elementary particles. And that's all! No one want to consider the premise of defining the concept of mass. Because that mean to rethink everything based on other bricks. And people don't have time, they are in business all the time, in the search for immediate advantage! i.e just another example of circular thinking.

Mass is an intrinsic propriety of motion not of something static, and in now way of what we have defined as matter. Now each one of you try to rethink everything  you know according to this. Maybe in this way some of you will get a glimpse of the concept of dielectric inertial plane, about which Ken talk in his work. And of course about the reciprocating magnetic fields.

AlienGrey

Re the Ghost thing and the little girl, be very aware of this demonic trick, by acknowledging and emotionally accepting into your home this entity, be aware you might very well not be aware demons can pretend they are something they are not in order to be invited in!

Once this is done their is no turning back as you will have given your self to the dark side, free will! no longer.

AG

CycleGuy

Quote from: sadang on January 17, 2016, 01:49:08 AM
I see here the same problem exposed in many posts. The circular thinking, without anyone sensing they think in circular way. All talk about mass and associate it with matter. Others goes a bit deeper but on the same path of thinking and talk about momentum for elementary particles. And that's all! No one want to consider the premise of defining the concept of mass. Because that mean to rethink everything based on other bricks. And people don't have time, they are in business all the time, in the search for immediate advantage! i.e just another example of circular thinking.

Mass is an intrinsic propriety of motion not of something static, and in now way of what we have defined as matter. Now each one of you try to rethink everything  you know according to this. Maybe in this way some of you will get a glimpse of the concept of dielectric inertial plane, about which Ken talk in his work. And of course about the reciprocating magnetic fields.

Ummm, no. Matter does not require motion to exist, to have mass, that's why it's called "rest mass". The only time mass "is an intrinsic property of motion" is for massless entities, which QM discovered, described and explained in Einstein's equation, 111 years ago.

From another of my posts in which I dismantle yet another Wheeler misconception:
Quote
We'll now go into his utterly absurd take on nuclear fission, in which he claims that there is no mass-energy equivalency, the energy released is solely due to inter-molecular "inertia" being converted from rotational to linear, and if one were to gather up all the particles of the bomb post-explosion, one could reassemble the bomb in whole.

What Wheeler (and Circlon Theory, from whence he got the idea) are talking about is the binding energy of atoms... energy can be obtained by either fissioning heavy elements or fusing light elements, which extracts the atomic binding energy. The closer one gets on the Periodic Table to iron, the less energy obtainable, given that iron is the most atomically stable element. So they are correct (at least in spirit) about the extraction of binding energy (although it's got nothing to do with "inter-atomic inertia"). But that doesn't mean that conversion of mass directly into energy isn't otherwise possible.

A quote from Wheeler's book:
Quote
An atomic explosion, of which all matter is still present and not converted (contrary to Einstein and wholly backed by Tesla) there is a loss of inter-atomic inertia. The uranium, plutonium, or tritium are still within the mushroom cloud. All of the original components needed to reconstruct the transformed atoms to their initial nuclear states are speeding away in all directions and could, in principle, be reassembled back into the original nuclei.

You'll note this is a bastardization of Circlon Theory:
Quote
It is believed that when an atomic bomb explodes, matter is transformed into enormous amounts of energy. This is not true. After the explosion, all of the original matter still exists. All of the protons, electrons, and neutrons making up the uranium, plutonium, or tritium are still within the mushroom cloud.

The mass-energy equivalency concept has been thoroughly documented, measured and proven:
http://newsoffice.mit.edu/2005/emc2
E=mc2 passes tough MIT test
"The team found that the formula predicting that energy and mass are equivalent is correct to an incredible accuracy of better than one part in a million. That's 55 times more precise than the best previous test."

Of course, E=mc2 is incorrect (not so much incorrect as incomplete). It doesn't take into account massless entities. It's only valid for massive objects. In 1905 Einstein derived an equation that works in all situations:
E2=P2c2+m2c4.

He figured out that the energy of a photon isn't governed by its mass or its velocity (like matter), but instead is governed entirely by f, it's frequency: E=hf, where h is Planck's constant.

For light, m=0, so E=Pc (energy and momentum are proportional).

Notice that massless entities can never have zero momentum, since something with zero mass and zero energy isn't something, it's nothing. This is just another way of saying that light can never be stationary. It's also a way of saying that everything (massive or massless) has frequency.

In the case of an object with mass m, that isn't moving (P=0), you then get E=mc2.

Mr. Wheeler probably also denies that when TNT explodes, there is a quantifiable loss of mass converted to energy (other than the energy released via the chemical reaction), to the tune of approximately 0.47E-10 kg per original kg of TNT, which is able to be stated thusly:

"In all interactions, there is a loss of mass, equal to 1/c2 times the amount of energy released."

Note that the statement above says all interactions... we were able to figure out the mass-energy equivalency via nuclear reactions first, because they yield the highest change in mass per interaction, but the same holds true for any process which releases energy. It's just that for non-nuclear interactions, the mass-energy equivalency is so low as to be practically immeasurable.

In Mr. Wheeler's universe, radiation (energy sans matter) could not exist... as this is the byproduct of nuclear reaction... but then, I'm guessing neither Mr. Wheeler nor the proponents of Circlon Theory have stopped to ponder just what radiation really is.

Nor did they stop to consider that even a chemical explosion results in an EMP... a "blast" of energy in the form of magnetic flux. It's how flux compression generator bombs (FCGs) work, a technology that's been known since the 1950s. If no mass is converted to energy, where did the EMP come from, given that according to Wheeler and Circlon Theory, all the matter remains intact? Remember, it's a chemical explosion, there are no nuclear changes in binding energy, thereby removing nuclear binding energy as a potential source of the EMP.

If we were able to completely transform mass to energy in one fell swoop (rather than relying upon the sequential transmutation down the Periodic Table of the elements via nuclear processes), there would be such a release of energy that it would boggle the mind... even the decay of 235U (which gives the products of 92Kr and 141Ba, which then decay to 140Xe and 91Sr) yields 165 MeV of energy (note that's two decay steps)... imagine if 235U were converted directly and instantaneously to energy.

For a comparison, colliding a proton and anti-proton would yield an astounding 1.876 GeV (although protons having 3 quarks and anti-protons having 3 anti-quarks, it gets messy if they have high momentum. It can result in full annihilation at low momentum or partial annihilation with generation of other matter at high momentum).

Is that "deep" enough for you?

profitis

"Borrow from the vacuum-but you must pay back in the time allowed"

negative energy washed away in the name of the Christ
Jesus

ramset

Be Careful what you play with ,some doors should not be opened
lest the Hounds and their chariot come for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0usXR4d6Qs



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma