Nov. 10th, 2013 Successful Over-Unity Experiment

[NathanCoppedge]

I think he forgot to add the energy it took to lift the counter weight up at the other end of the  device, when he placed the ball on the levers track, and pushed it down. But a bit hard to see the video on my phone, so will have another look when I get home from work tonight.

The marble is capable of lifting the entire counterweight ON IT'S OWN---something I believe was not done before. And the initial motions (e.g. the rising motion after the drop) occurs exclusively through the counterweight. It is my belief that the range of motion can be fixed to allow the marble to trigger each lever in succession when eight of the apparatuses are arranged in a circle. That is my basis for over-unity.

The experiment was designed to make PROGRESS OF ANY KIND.

[NathanCoppedge]

Looks interesting but I don't grasp what's this track and ball counterweight. I'm hoping for a better video and explanation.

Sorry, I took the video with my phone, and it was then converted to MPG format using a video converter program.

The track is a series of two slats through which runs the lever. The counterweight, which is not visible for the entire video, is positioned at the opposite end of the point of balance (called a fulcrum or hinge), and is fixed to the lever.

The lever tilts up and down through the track, and in this special configuration in which the marble travels from about 2.2X counterweight leverage to about 3X counterweight leverage, the marbles motion is created by the counterweight, AND the marble can trigger the counterweight to rise afterwards.

It may seem like a small experiment, but I think it is highly significant.

Will this be marked as the time over-unity was proven for posterity? Time will tell.

[TinselKoala]

So that's a "no" then I guess. You cannot show the device returning to the initial state exactly, without using your hands, and there is energy stored in the positioning of the weight and counterweight initially.

I suggest you firm up your demonstration, shoot it with a better camera, and get yourself a decent bubble level. For this kind of work a "machinist's level" should really be used. I would like to see this setup done better, because I can tell from your explanation that you are in earnest and you have thought about what you are doing. Let's see if we can fully and rigorously quantify the role of Mister Hand, before we start declaring overunity, OK?

[tinman]

Disregarding the energy it took to lift the ball onto the track to start the process,the ball would have to end up higher at the end of the track,than it was at the start of the track. At very best-even disregarding any friction,the ball would only roll to the very same hight it started at-it would not go higher.

[conradelektro]

It is my belief that this is final proof of over-unity.

Although the device is not perpetual in its current form, since the marble can be made (I believe) to not lose altitude --- since it gains altitude while being moved by the lever --- I believe that eight of these devices may be positioned in a horizontal octagon to produce a continuous cycle, as shown at the following link:

http://www.nathancoppedge.com/Perpetual_Motion_RepeatingLeverage_Diagrams.html

According to my unimportant opinion, the only way to interest a sufficient number of people would be to build that "horizontal octagon to produce a continuous cycle". Why not build a decagon (ten devises in a circle) to make the lift high enough.

Only a marble going in circles for a long time (let's say a week) without energy input would cause a stir in the scientific world. Of course, independent verification is a must as well.

But this is of course the impossible thing to do. So, do not talk about it, do not make promises, just build it and we will see.

The video without details and no understandable explanation is more than useless. Who can take that seriously?

"Look I have something, I do not show what it is, but it proves a violation of known principles." Ridiculous, as always!

"I can not show you details, because I want to preserve my rights." Yes, do that, stop speaking about a secret you do not want to disclose, it will be stolen from you if you give too many hints. If you do not give hints, whatever you say is meaningless.

Disclose completely or shut up completely.

Greetings, Conrad