Faster than the speed of light.

[e2matrix]

Faster than light speed has been done a number of times in recent experiments and warp speed is proposed as being possible even for travel.


http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/05/07/faster_than_light_quantum/


http://www.space.com/17628-warp-drive-possible-interstellar-spaceflight.html


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/science-news/8783011/Speed-of-light-broken-at-CERN-scientists-claim.html

[tinman]

This is what I understand of the topic, Tinman.

Einstein has claimed that an object will gain mass as it accelerates - how this occurs I have no idea. As the object continues to accelerate, it continues to gain mass. The more massive the object, the more force is required to accelerate it.

It gets to the point whereby the mass gained by the object approaches infinity. This implies that the force required to accelerate it further approaches infinity.

Then the same must apply for all mass,in that the fuel propelling the space craft must also gain in mass relative to that of the space craft. This would also mean the particles being ejected to provide thrust must also gain in mass,thus creating more thrust. If the space craft were to gain infinite mass,then so would the fuel and thrust particles.

From this,we can eliminate the requirement for large amounts of fuel,as the fuel would gain in mass the closer we get to the speed of light. But dose this mean that with infinite mass,all of space is filled up with a space ship???.

It is said that energy can be neither created or destroyed,but Einestein's theory says mass increases as we approach the speed of light. This means the energy created from the engine pushing the space craft would increase. This increase in energy was then created out of nothing.

[lumen]

Then the same must apply for all mass,in that the fuel propelling the space craft must also gain in mass relative to that of the space craft. This would also mean the particles being ejected to provide thrust must also gain in mass,thus creating more thrust. If the space craft were to gain infinite mass,then so would the fuel and thrust particles.

From this,we can eliminate the requirement for large amounts of fuel,as the fuel would gain in mass the closer we get to the speed of light. But dose this mean that with infinite mass,all of space is filled up with a space ship???.

It is said that energy can be neither created or destroyed,but Einestein's theory says mass increases as we approach the speed of light. This means the energy created from the engine pushing the space craft would increase. This increase in energy was then created out of nothing.

That's why I suspect the formula is only correct from an observer viewpoint and would not apply from the perspective of the spaceship.

[tinman]

That's why I suspect the formula is only correct from an observer viewpoint and would not apply from the perspective of the spaceship.

This is what i asume to be correct as well lumen.Watching a space craft from earth traveling at the speed of light as it passed earth,would look like a long blury streak,and that streak would be on the plane of travel direction only. If we could see light itself,then that would also look like a continuous streem-as would the space craft. But from a view point within the space craft,it would look no different to that if it were stationary.

[synchro1]

Here's the best argument for travel >C: Imagine the sun vanishing in an instant. You wouldn't see it disappear for 8 minutes, but the Earth would instantly veer off on a tangent. Hence; Gravity must be traveling faster then light! Maxwell's speed of the magnet wave. Check out the first minute and a half of this Eric Dollard video:   


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lqMiZPO9TM