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New Scalar Wave Detector and laws of Scalar Physics

Started by wdjensen123, September 21, 2014, 09:28:35 PM

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blueplanet

Quote from: AlienGrey on March 05, 2018, 06:25:49 PM
Nice bit of carpentry, did you do a constructional video by any chance, nice work any way.

AG|

I don't know what you are trying to imply here.
What we are trying to demystify is the the proof of scalar wave using the Meyl's experiment.
However, with a piece of black plastic sheet, the electrodynamic mechanism at high frequency is completely different.
And I doubt if TB's scalar wave theory or Meyl's theory are really applicable to this scenario.
I don't know whether you truly understand it or not.

blueplanet

Can you show us some real life examples of scalar waves?


Quote from: SolarLab on March 05, 2018, 06:37:32 PM
Type of wave?

Been a few years since we did this stuff but:

Working in the large RF Shield room (still a sweat box) we tried horizontal, vertical, and a variety
of polarization blocking test - no noticeable power (signal) perturbations or degradation.

Conclusion - not transversal, therefore surmised it had to be something else (rocket science at it's finest).  :)

A complete Faraday cover (6 sides solid copper and aluminum, sealed edges)
- slight loss of power but we couldn't get inside the box to monitor the input. Center ground rod to earth,
other grounding to cage edges via heavy welding cable. Surmised, had to be electric only.

But, by carefully moving the two receivers into a line-of-sight configuration with the transmitter and varying
the distance between the receivers there were spots where the power appeared to vary, not a lot, probably
less than a dB or so therefore we surmised longitudinal with wave interference. Not conclusive by any means
but we figured it was a good guess at the time; and since some accept the notion of a longitudinal type wave,
and we didn't have any other means or ideas of testing it; we left it at that.

However, it would seem logical that if the magnetic part of a transverse wave is removed, or doesn't exist, the
waveform would likely be longitudinal. By definition I'm not sure what else it might be.   

I think this effect appears in magnetics as well.

Smokey <=> And to be clear, we are dealing with spherical waves.
Not "longitudinal" waves.

Your likely correct that the device has a Spherical radiation pattern as it's antenna is absolutely non-directional.
Actually I've never seen a "spherical waveform," however, if you watch the smoke from a cigarette in the sunlight on a
calm day it moves in tiny, almost spherical, vortex patterns; so there may be something to it. Might explain some of
the bazaar characteristic propagation behavior we're seeing. I'm certainly open to discovering more.

Well, let me back up a bit - Ball Lightning might be evidence of a spherical wave, of sorts, and it's inter-related to HV.

The apparatus is packed away but I'm setting up a new "my private" corner in the lab so maybe?

conradelektro

Quote from: TinselKoala on March 05, 2018, 11:21:16 PM
That's right.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-MA8rzZSqk

(Sorry about the light...)

However.... there are Faraday cages, and then there are Faraday cages. It takes a _lot_ of effort to make a good one. What I used in the above video isn't a particularly good one but does effectively shield low frequency RF.

The Caduceus antenna shown in the video does produce a tightly directional beam and is supposed to work by just that kind of cancellation or attenuation of the M part of the EM wave that is referred to by SolarLab above.

I do not understand the experiment shown in the video:

There is a conventional AM radio receiver in the Faraday cage. If a scalar wave (sent by the Caduceus coil) can be received by a conventional AM radio receiver, why is it something else than a conventional electromagnetic wave?

Arguments:

The Faraday cage should strip away the conventional electromagnetic wave part and whatever is left should NOT be received by a conventional AM radio receiver. The electronics of a conventional AM radio receiver are "constructed" for the electromagnetic wave part and not for the longitudinal wave part. It would be a strange coincidence that a conventional AM radio receiver also receives the longitudinal part, it would interfere with the reception of the electromagnetic part.

If you put the directional antenna of a fairly strong conventional electromagnetic wave transmitter in half a meter distance to a simple Faraday cage, it will blast through?

Conclusion:

For me the most difficult part of all "longitudinal wave allegations" ist the proof that it is something else than a conventional electromagnetic wave. And this is exactly the criticism Mr. Meyl received from conventional scientists. Meyl could never build a receiver which separated the electromagnetic part and the longitudinal part. (Like our man high Koala, Meyl used in essence a conventional receiver.)

Greetings, Conrad

sm0ky2

A "longitudinal" wave is really only seen in soundwave propagation
or in the form of a standing wave emanating from a speaker or oriface
from an audio source (like a subwoofer or an organ)
Though it can also be manifest in physical vibration
It is a wave that vibrates in the same direction as its propagation
(contrasted by the other scenario in which the sound wave oscillates
   perpendicular to the propagation) [transverse]


Whereas, a spherical wave propagates according to Huygen's principal
(which to some degree applies to all waves)
The distinction here being that the source propagates spherically
not simply a wave-point acting as a spherical wavelet.
(in reference to the Tesla transmitter)


The caduceus coil shown by TK, produces a perpendicular oscillation
with respect to the propagation. This is signified by the directionality
of the emissions from the end of the coil, and the radial changes in
amplitude.
Used to be called a "tensor coil", because the radius increased along
it's length. (TK's coil was replicated from a later source which did away
  with this feature)
Originally known as the Tet (Djed) coil of Hermeticism.
And is the symbological icon of the medical industry.





I was fixing a shower-rod, slipped and hit my head on the sink. When i came to, that's when i had the idea for the "Flux Capacitor", Which makes Perpetual Motion possible.

blueplanet

Like what you said, it is impossible to tell the difference between longitudinal waves and transverse electromagnetic waves from Meyl's experiement.

The leakage through the Faraday cage can be due to the higher order modes.

These scalar wave things may be a very important violation of poynting vector theorem if the CIA's document is right. They may be important for making weapons. But IMHO, I also think they have diluted Tesla's or Marconi's concepts of wireless power transfer, which is far more important.

Somewhere, Meyl has said that long range wireless power transfer can be achieved using scalar waves because of the low attenuation in the near field zone. Ironically, I have not seen any experimental evidence proving this claim.  Instead, both Tesla and Marconic has independently achieved a long range wireless power transfer before the emergence of scalar wave theories.




Quote from: conradelektro on March 06, 2018, 03:38:39 AM
I do not understand the experiment shown in the video:

There is a conventional AM radio receiver in the Faraday cage. If a scalar wave (sent by the Caduceus coil) can be received by a conventional AM radio receiver, why is it something else than a conventional electromagnetic wave?

Arguments:

The Faraday cage should strip away the conventional electromagnetic wave part and whatever is left should NOT be received by a conventional AM radio receiver. The electronics of a conventional AM radio receiver are "constructed" for the electromagnetic wave part and not for the longitudinal wave part. It would be a strange coincidence that a conventional AM radio receiver also receives the longitudinal part, it would interfere with the reception of the electromagnetic part.

If you put the directional antenna of a fairly strong conventional electromagnetic wave transmitter in half a meter distance to a simple Faraday cage, it will blast through?

Conclusion:

For me the most difficult part of all "longitudinal wave allegations" ist the proof that it is something else than a conventional electromagnetic wave. And this is exactly the criticism Mr. Meyl received from conventional scientists. Meyl could never build a receiver which separated the electromagnetic part and the longitudinal part. (Like our man high Koala, Meyl used in essence a conventional receiver.)

Greetings, Conrad