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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MileHigh

I read the first few pages of the pdf and skimmed through the rest.  I noticed the Bloch wall gets a lot of discussion, hence the big debate.

From the first pages:

QuoteI encourage experiments with the Bloch Wall. I have a small iron lamination with a hole in one end
and I have cut it in half and made it into an arrow shape on the end, it's tied to a small piece of wire
and I wave the Iron Lamination over the Bloch Wall. The Lamination will Jump over the Bloch Wall
with extreme reluctance. It's as if there is an invisible wall of force that the Iron Lamination can only
reluctantly pass.

The reason your iron lamination jumps over what you think is the Bloch wall is because on either side there is much stronger magnetic attraction.  So there is no jumping, it's essentially the opposite of what you are suggesting.  I remember seeing it in your video clip.

QuoteHere in lies a very serious problem! It's not bought up anywhere as far as I can tell. This definition
does NOT explain how Mechanical Rotational Energy is converted into Electrical Energy on the
Output Terminals. Energy in the form of Mechanical Rotation simply is not the actual causality of the
Energy on the Output Terminals!

Yes it is.

QuotePut simply, a combination of the Conductors and the Electromagnetic Fields in "Electric Generators"
separate Charge Carriers, positive one way, and Negative the other way, making one Terminal
become Positively Charged and the other Negatively Charged. This will change depending on the
polarity of the Induction Cycle inside the "Electric Generator". This is simply a Sine Wave output.

This idea of one terminal of a coil becoming negatively charged and the other positively charged is completely wrong and I would even go so far as to call that a totally naive view.  There is no build up of charge on the terminals under normal operation driving a load.  There is simply current flow.  There is an electric field inside the wires creating potential but that is not to be confused with any charge differential.

QuoteIdeally, these devices work with a Step Up configuration. 1:3 is a common Ratio. That's one turn on
the input to 3 turns on the output. Current, as you may think, is not stepped down as a result of the
Voltage being stepped up.

Current is stepped down as a result of voltage being stepped up.  Of course anybody familiar with transformers knows that you are making an incorrect claim here.  Suspension of disbelief is not an option.

My take from this is that you, Chris, would have to do convincing and properly executed bench experiments because the pdf doc is not convincing or credible at all.  So there is no point to debate the doc as far as I am personally concerned.

There is a kind of Catch 22 though.  I am not convinced that you have the knowledge and skill set to do the experiments properly.  If you could find someone to work with that was real, that truly knew their stuff, that would be a far preferable option.

In a nutshell and to quote Mark Dansie, show me the data.

MileHigh

tinman

Can some one please post the link for the magnet myths and misconceptions thread, as I keep getting diverted here to the markeemjunkiemilehighshitfest thread.

MileHigh

That wasn't a shit fest yesterday, it was a vigorous debate and some people might find it important.  You can't bluff your way through electronics or make up your own rules for electronics.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 15, 2015, 12:34:08 AM
Can some one please post the link for the magnet myths and misconceptions thread, as I keep getting diverted here to the markeemjunkiemilehighshitfest thread.
What would you like to discuss? 

Would you like to discuss the curious idea that a 1:3 step up transformer can step up the voltage, and the current does not step down 3:1?

PIN = VIN*IIN
POUT = VOUT*IOUT

So if VOUT = 3*VIN and IOUT>IIN/3 the output power is greater than the input.  If that sustains, then we get free (or at least apparently free) energy.



tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 15, 2015, 12:51:20 AM
What would you like to discuss? 

Would you like to discuss the curious idea that a 1:3 step up transformer can step up the voltage, and the current does not step down 3:1?

PIN = VIN*IIN
POUT = VOUT*IOUT

So if VOUT = 3*VIN and IOUT>IIN/3 the output power is greater than the input.  If that sustains, then we get free (or at least apparently free) energy.
How about the thread topic, or have we moved onto transformers?
You have been that busy with EMJ, and trying to correct everything he states, you missed 3questions I posted related to the thread title-about 9 pages back.

But anyway, do carry on.