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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

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tinman

Quote from: poynt99 on January 24, 2015, 07:36:01 AM
Brad,

Power is not energy.

In the case of a battery,we have a chemical reaction-this is chemical energy at work. This energy is transformed into electrical power,which in turn(via the HHO cell)is once agained turned into heat energy,and stored energy within the gas.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 07:01:35 AM
The problem is the !so called! laws of physics. How can you make laws based on theories?.
The question itself betrays a failure to understand how we acquire knowledge.  An idea becomes a law when all efforts to falsify the idea fail.
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Lets look at the law of the conservation of energy-->WTF dose that mean ???.
It means just what it says:  This world we live in has a certain amount of "stuff" that we call matter in one form and energy in another.  There is no way to destroy that "stuff" and there is no way to create more "stuff" ex nihilo.
QuoteIf we adhear to this law,then we might aswell all pack up our bat and ball,and head off home-game lost.
I suppose that depends on what one considers the "game" to be.
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And what if i can show this law dosnt apply to all. What if i can show a device that can switch from a gravity device,to a buoyancy device,and produce an energy output that is greater than the energy applied to the device.
You are welcome to try.  Al who have tried in the past have failed.
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First up-A gravity powered device-->breaks that law.Rubbish they say-cant work.
Second-A buoyancy device-breaks that law. Rubbish they say-cant work.
What about a mix of the two?-Nup-still rubbish.

But to all that read this,look at the picture below,and answer this very simple question.

Account for all the energies out,so as they equal the energy in.
Cant create--cant destroy--only transform.
Electrolysis is well understood and well accounted.  Where do you think there is a loss or gain in total energy?

allcanadian

@tinman
QuoteThe problem is the !so called! laws of physics. How can you make laws based on
theories?.
Lets look at the law of the conservation of energy-->WTF dose that mean (http://overunity.com/Smileys/default/huh.gif).
If we adhear to this law,then we might aswell all pack up our bat and ball,and
head off home-game lost.

It depends on ones perspective, the conservation of energy can coexist with the concept of free energy in my opinion. If the universe is full of energy on every known level and we know as a fact it is then the conservation of energy proves the concept free energy.

1)The universe is full of energy everywhere we know of because energy is conserved, it cannot just disappear.
2)If energy is conserved and everywhere then it is inherently free, Energy is Energy.
3)A device may have a value or cost but energy is inherently free and if we build a device which extracts this energy we know as a fact is everywhere then that does not change the fact it is still free energy.

AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 07:18:51 AM
And when you have had a go at answering the first question-dose this second diagram speak true?-give an accurate description as to all energies out.
Bad accounting leads out garbage conclusions.  Energy is stored in the broken bonds, as well as the state change, and temperature change.

poynt99

Quote from: tinman on January 24, 2015, 07:43:49 AM
There is no missing information poynt.The question is-will the output energy of the HHO cell be equal to the P/in. So if we add up both the energy stored in the two gases,and the heat both disipated and stored in the cell,will this be equal to the P/in.

Perhaps I have misunderstood?

This is my understanding; you turn on the disassociation apparatus and run it until you have 100psi in each container. This H and O2 if recombined represents a certain amount of energy. Correct thus far?

Now, you are comparing that stored energy to the power of your 60W source? Is that correct?
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