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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on January 05, 2015, 08:03:23 PM
I could spend hours wording an educational essay but anyone that has been following, will see that every post I have already posted is just that! Instead, I will let a Picture say a Thousand words: (I wonder if you can guess where the equator is?)
In the real world, there is no curl into your "magnetic equator".

MileHigh

Quote from: EMJunkie on January 05, 2015, 08:50:36 PM
MileHigh,

If you're representing the Earth as a Toroid, or Bar Magnet as a Toroid, then your Magnetics is clearly so far distorted that a sensible debate is not possible. This is the same as trying to find where the road goes at the same time you're building it - goes where you want it to!!! Same as your Imaginary Experiment!!!

I have already explained why this argument is mute! This is for the same reason as the Iron Filing experiment is mute!

Please spare us all this total non-sense!!!

Chris:

I simply gave an example of a toroid.  Did you follow along with the clip?

Who said that "I am representing the Earth as a toroid?"   Who said that I am "representing a bar magnet as a toroid?"  You are the only person that said that!

Your objection makes no sense at all because you are putting forth a nonsensical Straw Man argument, sorry!

MarkE

Quote from: MileHigh on January 05, 2015, 09:14:32 PM
Chris:

I simply gave an example of a toroid.  Did you follow along with the clip?

Who said that "I am representing the Earth as a toroid?"   Who said that I am "representing a bar magnet as a toroid?"  You are the only person that said that!

Your objection makes no sense at all because you are putting forth a nonsensical Straw Man argument, sorry!
Is it magnetic straw?

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on January 05, 2015, 09:00:09 PM
Tinman there is no surprise here.  The contours are parallel to the dipole near the center.  Iron filing experiments show  this fact.  The compass demonstration I just posted show this fact.  Induction through a pick-up coil as you have constructed shows this fact.  If we move the magnet or the coil parallel to the magnet's axis, then near the center there is the least change in flux crossing the pick-up coil and induction from the parallel motion there will be less than at the ends.  This too is completely consistent with almost 200 year old science.


MarkE - Congratulation's! Something sensible at last!

Alas, you support the wrong side of the fence:

Quote from: MarkE on January 05, 2015, 09:00:09 PM
If we move the magnet or the coil parallel to the magnet's axis, then near the center there is the least change in flux crossing the pick-up coil and induction from the parallel motion there will be less than at the ends.

According to your theory, having no Boundary, or Equator, or Bloch Wall, the diagram should show a linear Voltage all the way through the length of the Magnet! Use a Round, or Ball Magnet, you can try the same experiment any number times you wish with any design of Inductor you wish and as long as the same basic principals are followed then there will be a Zero Crossing right at the Equator or BLOCH WALL!

Its not rocket science!

This is just one more of many experiments that show the same results - That there is an Equator! It can be seen, felt and measured!

Regards

  Chris

MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on January 05, 2015, 09:19:37 PM

MarkE - Congratulation's! Something sensible at last!

Alas, you support the wrong side of the fence:

According to your theory, having no Boundary, or Equator, or Bloch Wall, the diagram should show a linear Voltage all the way through the length of the Magnet!
OK are you just blindly ignorant?  E is the cross product of l and db/dt.  Where the flux is uniform:  db/dt is zero.  Ergo a very long dipole moving through a coil at constant velocity will exhibit low voltage over most of its passage through the coil due to the near uniform field away from the poles.  What part of this are you having difficulty understanding?
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You can try the same experiment any number times you wish with any design of Inductor you wish and as long as the same basic principals are followed then there will be a Zero Crossing right at the Equator or BLOCH WALL!
You have shown zero evidence for a Bloch Wall at the dipole center.  Reliable evidence going back 200 years points against your idea.
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Its not rocket science!
No it isn't.  So why are you having such a hard time with it?
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This is just one more of many experiments that show the same results - That there is an Equator! It can be seen, felt and measured!

Regards

  Chris
It is one of the many experiments that refute your claims.