Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[MileHigh]

MileHigh, have you spent 1 second here in this debate thinking outside the BOX? Maybe you are also FOOLING yourself! Perhaps there are other places in Science that Refute the Iron Filing Experiment? Oh that's right I have provided many!

MileHigh, you don't know how Important it really is!

It's important to understand the energy dynamics of an inductor.

When you push on the accelerator, that push is like putting voltage across an inductor.  You speed up, and the speed is like the current flowing through the coil.  They both behave the same way.  The mass of the car is equivalent to the Henries value for the inductor.  When you put on the beaks it's like putting a resistor across the inductor.

The classic mechanical analogy for an inductor is a massless spring.  But I think it's important to understand the "mass in motion" analogies also.  Instead of a moving mass, a rotating flywheel is an equivalent and perhaps more common analogy.  Search on something like "inductor mechanical equivalent" or "spring-inductor analogy" or "inductor modeled as a flywheel."  You can do similar searches for a capacitor.

This may be new to you so you should have some fun reading up on it.  It will give you more insight.

MileHigh

[MarkE]

Oh MarkE - Here we go again! I think you may still have had your Eyes, Ears, and a few other things Closed during the Time of this Lecture!

Really, I have provided how many Links, all showing the same thing!

Others have done the same thing!

You have pointed to many references:  None that support your loopy ideas with any reliable evidence.  The references that have included reliable evidence have either had nothing to do with your claims or have refuted them.

You refute these facts simply because you have nothing to backup your Compass experiment or your Iron Filing Experiment!

These sort of silly comments all betray that you are just putting on a show.

MarkE - Anyone here can go and do the research, see that your FOOLING them! Its not hard to see this fact already!

What you call fact is sheer fantasy.

[tinman]

Tinman, let's see if we can get to a test that we agree upon.

Do you then agree that if we make a very long magnet and that it shows only flattenening, IE becoming more parallel as we approach the center that will mean that there is no curling towards the center?

No Mark ,I dont agree with this. Once again, if there is both a north field and a south field curling into the center, then you have an equal and opposite, and the net result is 0 field. So which end of the compass do you expect to point to the center?.
Once again the compass needle will be attracted to the opposite field of the magnet.
A compass is designed to show the opposite field by way of attraction. It is not designed to follow a dipole line or show a field around a magnet.

[MileHigh]

You can't see the forest for the trees Tinman.  What does a compass do in real life?  It lines itself up with the Earth's magnetic field.

[MarkE]

No Mark ,I dont agree with this. Once again, if there is both a north field and a south field curling into the center, then you have an equal and opposite, and the net result is 0 field. So which end of the compass do you expect to point to the center?.
Once again the compass needle will be attracted to the opposite field of the magnet.
A compass is designed to show the opposite field by way of attraction. It is not designed to follow a dipole line or show a field around a magnet.

Vector addition is a good thing.  See if you agree with what is depicted in the drawing below: