Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[MileHigh]

I scrolled though the comments and there I was!   Has it already been four years?

Read it and weep Chris.

[MarkE]

@AC and ALL - DWFTTW

DWFTTW URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHsXcHoJu-A

For some 300 years, a device has been built and no dispute about weather it works has been presented!

It works, Simple, it works!, no dispute, its used everyday by many thousands and thousands of people.

The Hydraulic Ram Pump

This pump is an Un-Stable System - Earnshaw's Theorem permits this due to the Inverse Square Law of Gravity! One could call this a Gravitic Oscillator!

The Hydraulic Ram Pump URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlkuZjd2Frc

and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqDkd7KdPg

I wasn't going to reply to this post and see if people were going to take it up! This is a very relevant and essential topic!

To say SMOT's (Simple Magnetic Overunity Toy) don't work is, in my opinion foolish.

It works if the right conditions are met!

SMOT URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mYm5nO5Fw&index=2&list=PL18F92E8FE71E9FBA

Howard Johnson also built a similar thing. It also worked!

Kind Regards

  Chris

The SMOT demonstration you linked, like all other SMOTs and like every one of Howard Johnson's devices fails to complete even a single circuit.  Is that something you didn't notice?

[Cap-Z-ro]

@MHI feel your pain-- cannot find server Doh..
AC

On firefox, if you click post and it comes up try again, just click your back button, and you have your post back.

Wait a few minutes and stir occasionally...no, wait, thats my mac and cheese directions...*puts box outta sight*.

If nothing else werks, just open up word and construct your posts there.

Regards...

[MarkE]

TinselKoala - Youre a FOOL! Blind and Intellectually Handicaped! Oil Company Troll!

You do realize that it is your character that you assail when you assert false disparaging claims against others don't you?  Why do you keep doing this to yourself?

[MarkE]

@EMJ
A few thoughts concerning the DWFTTW and the SMOT concepts.

Are you claiming that a SMOT has ever worked?  If you are then kindly point to one that has or does.  Are you claiming that a SMOT could work?  If you are then kindly point to some source of reliable evidence that supports that idea.

In both cases the critics stuck in their own personal flavor of mediocrity have said something cannot work because of certain laws however these laws were always applied in there most basic sense to justify an opinion. That is the DWFTTW concept cannot work because the force on an object from the wind decreases as the velocity of the object increases thus if the object reaches the same speed as the wind there can be no applied force. It is all common sense that it cannot go faster than the wind and must be a perpetual mobile in violation of natural law. Now did you see what just happened here?, they applied the most basic form of the law to a rather complex concept they did not understand to justify their opinion.

So, let's see:  Someone overgeneralizes a principle and applies it where it doesn't belong.  Is that it?  Now, what can we observe about what you are doing by generalizing an entire class of people?

The SMOT is really no different because according to the critics it is just like a metal spring and we all know how springs act don't we?. Why it is all common sense and the same laws which apply to a simple spring must also apply to the SMOT and if it could work then it must also be a perpetual mobile in violation of natural law. Again we have a very strange scenario whereby the critics have applied the most basic form of the law to a complex system they may not fully understand.

Well, let me help you out with finding a few differences here: 

SME's who have articulated any hypothesis on which a SMOT could work that has passed peer review:  My count is zero.  What's yours?  The DWFTTW had many SMEs who validated the theory prior to actual runs. 

Number of SMOTs attempted:  Many.  Number of SMOTs that have ever worked:  My count is again zero.  What's yours?  The DWFTTW land yachts that have been built and worked:  At least several.

What is not always apparent, the good part, is that if we actually listen to the critics sometimes their misguided thoughts to justify their own opinion can offer real insight. For instance they believe the SMOT is just like a simple spring and nothing more or it may magically morph into a mythical perpetual mobile. However the inverse to their thoughts is that we want a system which can never act like a spring. You see they have just given us an answer to the single biggest problem we may encounter and under no circumstances can the system act like a simple spring or it cannot work.

Which raises the question how do we build a magnetic system which can never act like a simple spring?. Why if it were me I would look for non-linear relationships such as a spring which becomes weaker with one polarity (incoming magnet) and stronger with another polarity (outgoing magnet). Or a material which changes it's magnetic properties but only under certain specific conditions which we might control or a material which causes the field to move abruptly from one area to the next under certain conditions. I mean the critics have opened up endless possibilities due to their own indifference to the problem which they obviously have no idea how to solve... thanks critics.
It's really quite simple and in many cases we should simply do the opposite of what they are telling us.

AC

So do you have a hypothesis on which you believe a SMOT can work?  Who has ever attempted to implement your hypothesis?  Again:  Reliable data carries the day.