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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MileHigh

Quote from: tinman on January 02, 2015, 08:05:57 PM
OK ,im lost.
How or why dose the field turn around when you do,and exit where you entered?.

I am not quite sure I follow you.  When I "travel" through the magnet, my nose is always pointed in the same direction.  I start from just outside the south end of the magnet, and I emerge just outside the north end of the magnet.   The magnetic field is always pointing in the same direction as my nose the whole time.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on January 02, 2015, 08:12:47 PM
Christ, these people have confused magnitude for direction.  Optical illusion "leads out" massive delusion.

MarkE,

massive delusion? Of Blind Incompetence?

See, I provided references and HARD Data, you have nothing of the sort. And what's more cant!

massive delusion, I see, side by side with Blind Incompetence.

OU.com is full of Keyboard Junkies that simply are incompetent to learn anything new. No wonder you people have nothing running! You people need to get off your LAZY arses and do some work! with Open Minds! Five senses connected to a working brain will be the only thing that progress the common good!

Bill Alek is right on target!!!! You people shot him down even after providing Scientific Evidence! How many times are you going to let "IT" get away from you before you open your minds!

Or is it that, only your fingers get a workout?

With regrets and a saddened disrespect for Ignorance

Chris Sykes


MarkE

Quote from: EMJunkie on January 02, 2015, 08:34:06 PM
MarkE,

massive delusion? Of Blind Incompetence?

See, I provided references and HARD Data, you have nothing of the sort. And what's more cant!
Kindly look at your supplied data.  Look carefully.  See what those pretty light patterns really mean.  If your hypothesis is as in the graphic you posted a couple of posts back, that the field of a dipole magnet really goes from one end to the center instead of all the way around the magnet, then there are plenty of experiments that could be performed to demonstrate such behavior by simply using a long dipole.  The problem is that is not what happens when we investigate long dipoles.
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massive delusion, I see, side by side with Blind Incompetence.

OU.com is full of Keyboard Junkies that simply are incompetent to learn anything new. No wonder you people have nothing running! You people need to get off your LAZY arses and do some work! with Open Minds! Five senses connected to a working brain will be the only thing that progress the common good!
Data:  Reliable data tells all.  Your data does not actually support your conclusions.  I don't see value hurling insults at you for your mistake.  I see value in encouraging you to look at your data and understand what it really means.
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Bill Alek is right on target!!!! You people shot him down even after providing Scientific Evidence! How many times are you going to let "IT" get away from you before you open your minds!
I am sorry but Bill Alek has utterly and totally failed to support his extraordinary propositions.  If a day should come that he can actually support his claims with reliable data, then I will think better of his claims.
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Or is it that, only your fingers get a workout?

With regrets and a saddened disrespect for Ignorance

Chris Sykes
It is good that you abhor ignorance.  Don't succumb to it because doing so lets you believe what you would like as opposed to finding out what is true.  That cuts all ways.

tinman

Quote from: MileHigh on January 02, 2015, 08:27:03 PM
I am not quite sure I follow you.  When I "travel" through the magnet, my nose is always pointed in the same direction.  I start from just outside the south end of the magnet, and I emerge just outside the north end of the magnet.   The magnetic field is always pointing in the same direction as my nose the whole time.
Ah i see,you did a typo.
Quote your post:-before i enter the south end--When i emerge from the south end.
Im guessing that should have been-when i emerge from the north end.
I did highlite it in red in my reply.

MileHigh

Chris:

I read through the pdf.  The first issue is your statement that it is "peer reviewed."  To me that means it's a paper that is published in an academic journal.  My instincts are telling me that "peer reviewed" for you means people that you know of in the realm of free energy and alternative stuff.  They are usually not university educated from my experience and sometimes their "academic credentials" come from those "mills" that crank out a doctorate that you can hang on your wall for a price.

So the paper is not peer reviewed by any stretch of the imagination.

When I read the paper I can't be sure if the language and terminology is legit or not because I am out or my realm.  However, it doesn't strike me as being 100% legit but it is just a feeling.

I explained what you were seeing in the magnetic viewing film a few postings back.   You still cannot or will not do a "drive through" of a magnet like I did and explain the mechanics of your alleged Bloch wall at the center of a magnet.   Why is that?   Why can't you explain in real terms what the alleged Bloch wall is?

On the other hand, the model for a magnet with no Bloch wall is the accepted model.   If you cut a series of tiny slits into a bar magnet to locate the alleged Bloch wall the only thing that you will find with a Hall sensor is a continuous unidirectional magnetic field just like I described.  The iron filings do not lie, they orient themselves in line with the external magnetic field.  The magnetic field model with no Bloch wall makes perfect sense.

I can't explain the specific optical effects in the pdf.  However, those effects are related to reflection and refraction of light off of magnetically polarized strings of fine particles.  If I had a ferrofluid viewer myself I could play with it and get a feel for it.  I wonder if the pictures are just "cherry picked" pictures that show the desired optical effects.  Just like the vast majority of people that play with magnetic viewing film don't understand what it is showing them or how to use it, I can only suspect that some people that play with ferrofluid viewers suffer the same issues.

The magnetic field around a bar magnet is the same as they have been saying it is like since the 19th century.

MileHigh