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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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tinman

Quote from: poynt99 on January 04, 2015, 09:52:48 AM
You will obtain the highest voltage reading at point B, but not because of maximal coupling. It comes down to net flux.

At the ends of the coil, positions A and C, the net flux passing through your pickup coil will be significantly lower than what passes through in the middle. The reason being because at the ends, the curling flux has not diverged that much, and most of it will pass through the pickup coil. Therefore, there will be two flux paths (roughly the same net magnitude) passing through the pickup coil, but in opposing directions, largely canceling each other out.

In the middle position point B, the flux density outside the coil is significantly lower (due to the curl) so there will be a higher net flux passing through the pickup coil in this case.

In both cases, all the flux generated within the coil diameter passes through the pickup coil.
Thanks poynt
This of course is exactly what my test setup showed.my uestion would be now is why when the center of a magnet (between the dipole) is passed across an inductors core, no power is generated if this is the point of the largest part of the flux field.MarkE seems to think there will be power generated (unless he misinterpreted my question), but as we know, there is none.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 05, 2015, 06:52:07 PM
Thanks poynt
This of course is exactly what my test setup showed.my uestion would be now is why when the center of a magnet (between the dipole) is passed across an inductors core, no power is generated if this is the point of the largest part of the flux field.MarkE seems to think there will be power generated (unless he misinterpreted my question), but as we know, there is none.
Tinman, but of course the transformer works for coils over the middle.  In fact that is where it works the best.  The field there is maximally parallel to the core and perpendicular to the windings.  It is as close to perfect in the middle as it is going to get.  Do you see cost conscious transformer manufacturers keeping windings away from the centers of their cores?  Why do you think they wind contiguously right through the center if power transfer is deficient there?  How about solenoid manufacturers? 

tinman

Quote from: MarkE on January 05, 2015, 07:05:58 PM
Tinman, but of course the transformer works for coils over the middle.  In fact that is where it works the best.  The field there is maximally parallel to the core and perpendicular to the windings.  It is as close to perfect in the middle as it is going to get.  Do you see cost conscious transformer manufacturers keeping windings away from the centers of their cores?  Why do you think they wind contiguously right through the center if power transfer is deficient there?  How about solenoid manufacturers?
The later half of my post was in regards to PMs on a rotor, as it was in my post where you answered-but it is.
You pass the center of a pm past an inductors core, and no power is generated. But with this electromagnet test, most power is generated at the center of the magnet (electromagnt)

synchro1

These three guys keep everyone on the same tedious treadmill simply to sidetrack any meaningful discussion. The best approach is just to ignore them. They're just a pack of cheap hustlers making suckers out of the rest of us with their constant and mind numbing distraction.

EMJunkie

Quote from: MarkE on January 05, 2015, 05:48:31 PM
How many times do you need to see that the field alignment through a dipole magnet is all in the same direction before you concede the falsity of this "magnetic equator" idea that you promote?  Alternatively, kindly show a reliable experiment that demonstrates your claim that the field surrounding a dipole magnet loops from each pole through the dipole center instead of continguously from one pole to the other.

I could spend hours wording an educational essay but anyone that has been following, will see that every post I have already posted is just that! Instead, I will let a Picture say a Thousand words: (I wonder if you can guess where the equator is?)