Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

[allcanadian]

@Tinman

There's the money shot right there AC-well done.
They had a good handle on
there laws-->until the back yard boys blew them out of the water. But as
always,it was just an oversite--it's all fixed now

It really irritates me that this same juvenile behavior still continues today and that so many people are claiming that something is impossible or must violate the laws of physics without having any knowledge of what is actually happening. The fact remains that the scientific community called the DWFTTW engineers liers to their face and prostituted their laws to justify their own misguided opinions. They lied outright to everyone then when proven wrong they tried to sugar coat the whole scenario so they wouldn't look like the fools they obviously are, it was embarrassing for everyone involved.
So the lesson here is we should not be so quick to judge anyone until we have all the facts regardless of who we are or what we think we know. Context Matters
AC

[EMJunkie]

This is the truth EMJ,and i was here for the Ainslie saga from the start-->that was a hoot for sure.

Although we may not agree on all things all the time,the 3 above mentioned have my upmost respect. As far as disagreeing some times with what one another may think is right or wrong,well the world would be a pretty boaring stale place to be in if we all thought the same.

We all have our win's every now and then,but you will find MH,poynt and TK nail it 99.99% of the time-->hell,TK even had to correct MarkE there once not to far back in this thread,and i even got to correct MH once(i believe was also in this thread?),and that came about from experiments and bench time-->i think thats the only one for me but with these 3 guy's lol.

@Tinman - Yes, sometimes it is down to interpretation, How one Understands something can be quite different sometimes!

Still, key word research is the best way I have found to look for information!

There are some very smart guys here, this is not in doubt!

Ed Skilling had the following to say about Lester J Hendershot:

"His native intelligence was extremely high."

and also

"When compared to T. Henry Moray, Hendershot in my opinion was a giant."

Hendershot had been educated to high school level and had only the most basic understanding of conventional electrical theory!

Kind Regards

  Chris

[EMJunkie]

@TinmanIt really irritates me that this same juvenile behavior still continues today and that so many people are claiming that something is impossible or must violate the laws of physics without having any knowledge of what is actually happening. The fact remains that the scientific community called the DWFTTW engineers liers to their face and prostituted their laws to justify their own misguided opinions. They lied outright to everyone then when proven wrong they tried to sugar coat the whole scenario so they wouldn't look like the fools they obviously are, it was embarrassing for everyone involved.
So the lesson here is we should not be so quick to judge anyone until we have all the facts regardless of who we are or what we think we know. Context Matters
AC

@AC and ALL - DWFTTW

DWFTTW URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHsXcHoJu-A

For some 300 years, a device has been built and no dispute about weather it works has been presented!

It works, Simple, it works!, no dispute, its used everyday by many thousands and thousands of people.

The Hydraulic Ram Pump

This pump is an Un-Stable System - Earnshaw's Theorem permits this due to the Inverse Square Law of Gravity! One could call this a Gravitic Oscillator!

The Hydraulic Ram Pump URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlkuZjd2Frc

and: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yHqDkd7KdPg

I wasn't going to reply to this post and see if people were going to take it up! This is a very relevant and essential topic!

To say SMOT's (Simple Magnetic Overunity Toy) don't work is, in my opinion foolish.

It works if the right conditions are met!

SMOT URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5mYm5nO5Fw&index=2&list=PL18F92E8FE71E9FBA

Howard Johnson also built a similar thing. It also worked!

Kind Regards

  Chris

[MarkE]

Well that didnt get us very far,so im guessing were sticking to theories ATM.

It is great that you believe we have a good grasp on whats going on with magnetic field's,so i will take the time to ask you another question.

Im sure you have seen some guys around here(including myself) make those induction water heater's-the one's with a looped coil of copper pipe filled with water,and in the center of this looped copper pipe is a rotor with PM's in it. They spin the rotor up,eddy currents heat the copper pipe,and thus the water in side the pipe. So we know an equal and opposite force is created between the rotor and copper-the drag on the rotor is the same as the drag on the copper pipe. But my question is this-the copper pipe and water gets hot,but do the magnets on the rotor also get hot?-we are assuming that the copper pipe is insulated,and radiant heat from the copper pipe dose not heat the rotating magnets.

Do we agree that it is the eddy currents induced in the copper pipe that do the heating?  Do we agree that if we accelerate a mass in a frictionless environment that neither the acceleration nor the resultant velocity heat the mass? Do we agree that the power induced in a coil is:  V_INDUCED²/R?  Do we agree that where R is small as in a chunk of copper that the resulting power is much greater than where R is much larger as in a magnet?

If we agree on all these points, do you still have a question?

[TinselKoala]

You know that SMOTs don't work don't you?

Clearly he does NOT know, or believe, that SMOTs don't work! Just look at what he's posted! 

Go ahead, EMJunkie. Please go to work and make a self-looping SMOT! I don't think you should post anything else until you get one working, running by itself. After all, your posted .pdf says "can this be looped? Yes!" and you claim that the video shows a "working" SMOT! So go to it! Put those wonderful critical thinking and building skills to work and PROVE ME WRONG. Make a self-looped SMOT! Simple, right? I laugh at you!
You cannot do it!

And how about a hydraulic ram pump? Make one that pumps water back up into its reservoir and just keeps on pumping the same water around and around, without you helping it by supplying _excess water_ from an upper reservoir. Hundreds and hundreds of years! Go ahead, make one that works in a closed loop!
You cannot!

And it is clear that you are unaware of the _real_ scientific discussion that has happened concerning the DWFTTW efforts. Some people didn't believe it at first glance, that is true. It is also true that many of those openminded disbelievers carried out a rational discussion, built models and finally convinced themselves that it was possible, before the definitive demonstrations that we have all seen on YT. This issue is +unrelated+, except in your mind.

Why don't you drag out the old canard about the Wright Brothers, next, where you claim that they did what "every scientist" believed was impossible, while you ignore the fact that they had examples from nature, examples from models, man-carrying kites, soaring gliders, the work of other people, and years of their own _scientific_ research to build upon before they flew their first _powered_ airplane.

You're a real hoot EMJunkie. Produce a self-looped SMOT to back up your silly claims, or everyone will know that you are just another blowhard false claimant like so many we have seen here, claiming something that is not true.  YOU CANNOT !!  You've really stuck your foot in your mouth now, with your support of SMOT claims. Get to work! SIMPLE magnetic overunity toy. Howard Johnson! Your pdf! The video you linked! Where is your PROOF of OU, your self looped SMOT? You cannot do it!!!

It works if the right conditions are met!

Yes... if you supply power from the outside! By Mister Hand!

You get a ROFL for that one!