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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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allcanadian

@Mark


I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.


I mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.


So here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.


So if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive. You know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.


AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

MarkE

Quote from: allcanadian on January 25, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
@Mark


I was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.
Because I choose to be here, just as you choose to be here.
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I mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.
Speaking of progression where is an example of free energy progress that you claim?  I asked you to cite an example of progress.  Did I miss your reply?  My last reply was to wattsup's error laden diatribe.  Would you prefer that the garden path to wonderland he laid out be accepted as truth?  If so, why?
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So here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.
Considering the active and willful rejection of what the giants have told us by many here, you might wish to reconsider your assertions.
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So if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive. You know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.
If you are claiming my posts are irrational, then kindly cite an example.
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AC

tinman

Quote from: allcanadian on January 25, 2015, 07:17:51 PM
@Mark

AC
QuoteI was reading through the last posts when a thought occurred to me, why are you here?.
Many are starting to ask the very same question.

QuoteSo if you are here to help people I would suggest you try and hold a rational conversation like an actual human being because what your doing is ridiculous and counter productive
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There are times when the ridiculous are clearly present,like we should follow the magnetic example given to us by science and physics,but they are yet to explain the what produces the physical force within that magnetic field. But to be fair,are you misinterpreting the !counter productive! ?__>is it more a case that MarkE is correct,and we just dont like that,as that means we are incorrect?.

QuoteSo here is a suggestion, go read the original works of some of the greatest minds in our history. You will find none of them forced anything on anyone. The most intelligent people always ask people to consider their perspective and attempt to justify it in a meaningful way. The most intelligent people always layout their thoughts in a comprehensive way and let the listener discover the answer. This is what we call learning Mark and the greatest minds, the most intelligent people in our history all did this while you do not.
Some are stuck fast in the dogma that is common physics,and have no room for change. They see what has been shown to work around a few basic test,and decide that there is no need to look any further. This can be seen with the magnetic field-things work around there theories of the magnetic field,so that's that,no need to look any further. But it is clear that they have missed something some where along the line,as there is still no answer to basic questions we ask about the magnetic force. One would think if there modle and understanding was correct,then the answers would be right there in front of them.

QuoteI mean look at my last post, it has some kind of progression, it offers some useful information and hopefully provokes people to think about things. Then we come to your last post which is condescending and arrogant and doesn't provoke thought concerning much of anything. It amounts to little more than googled one liners to make other people look stupid, not unlike most all your posts.
For some,it's a matter of having to be right wether right or not. This happens so much in the scientific comunity-->take the cold fusion fiasco for example. Some have a need to be king,and they like others to see that they are what they seek to be. It's funny to watch these guys sometime's-you will notice that they wont take on another that they feel may know just as much!if not more!than they do. So far i have seen three such instances in the last couple of weeks,and it's funny when one questions the others opinion,all go's quiet lol.

We all know who is number 1 here-and number two. The good thing about these two guys is that they go out of there way to help you out,and there actually open to looking into AND even building/replicating so called OU devices-->because there mind is still open. Mark would be sitting at number 3 here in my opinion as far as knowledge go's-and thats not to bad at all,but i feel he is a closed book,and has little room for change.

QuoteYou know I do not always agree with others such as MH and TK but I do respect them and their opinions because they act like grown ups and can hold a rational respectful conversation with other people.
And you can take that to the bank ;)
hell-This is a little snipet from  MH's last post to me-Quote: Do you understand the most basic basic fundamentals about electricity and magnetism?   (This is a generic "you") Because clearly if you don't understand them, then you are handicapped and simply can't function properly when it comes to electronics.
Lol,but thats all good-sometimes i deserve that sort of a comment with the odd things i post-->or i may forget to include the full schematic for the space shuttles instrument cluster in my description,or it may be a case that they dont speak mandarin like i do ;D

MileHigh

Then there is the classic:  Failure to answer a question about a circuit that consists of a power supply and one single lousy component.

If you (generic) can't answer a question properly about a circuit that consists of a single component, then why should I listen to you at all?

It's like I said, you go to a car mechanic and you find out he has no clue that there are two sets of socket wrenches, English and metric.  I don't think anybody would want that guy to service and repair their car.

Pirate88179

Quote from: MileHigh on January 25, 2015, 08:22:26 PM

It's like I said, you go to a car mechanic and you find out he has no clue that there are two sets of socket wrenches, English and metric.  I don't think anybody would want that guy to service and repair their car.


There are two sets of sockets?  Great Scott!  No wonder my wrenches do not always fit.

(Just kidding.  Actually a very good analogue.)

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen