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Magnet Myths and Misconceptions

Started by hartiberlin, September 27, 2014, 05:54:29 PM

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MileHigh

You need a new car to bust the bad boys Mr. Zero:

Cap-Z-ro

Didn't realize I was dealing with an adolescent troll.

Its encouraging to see that the cabal is scraping the bottom of the barrel.

Regards...


allcanadian

@tinman
QuoteSome are stuck fast in the dogma that is common physics,and have no room for
change. They see what has been shown to work around a few basic test,and decide
that there is no need to look any further. This can be seen with the magnetic
field-things work around there theories of the magnetic field,so that's that,no
need to look any further. But it is clear that they have missed something some
where along the line,as there is still no answer to basic questions we ask about
the magnetic force. One would think if there modle and understanding was
correct,then the answers would be right there in front of them.

There lies the problem I think and I have been through almost everything I could find from A to Z on both sides of the fence however I found no reasonable answers to the big questions. Nowhere on the internet or otherwise have I ever read a reasonable answer concerning what the magnetic field is because no rational physicist would tell us the answer. The only answer I found after years of research was -- virtual particles popping in and out of existence from multiple parallel universes... as you can imagine I was disappointed.

I understand the concept sounds absurd and fundamentally it would seem impossible however I think it's important to understand the psychology behind it. All the concepts, equations and math revolve around closed systems because an open system cannot be rationalized nor quantified offering a near infinite number of variables. This is how science works and if it cannot be quantified then it is rejected which once again comes full circle back to basic psychology. The human mind must reject that which it cannot understand or rationalize or we begin to lose our grip on what we perceive as reality.

The alter ego is that the reverse may be true, if our mind will not allow an open system because it cannot be rationalized then logic stipulates the system must always remain closed and we are bound to that construct right or wrong. Thus it does not matter how factual or improbable the answer is it must be the correct one because all other possibilities must be rejected. At which point the logic concerning the proverbial closed system must spiral down the rabbit hole reinforcing itself within itself as it goes.

I'm not sure how many here have studied psychology however there is a saying which covers the bulk of it in my opinion -- the only ones who are truly insane are the ones who believe they are not in some way. That is those who are without doubt and reject all other possibilities or beliefs without question. Which explains many things doesn't it?, it is not a simple matter of convincing an insane person they are in fact insane because they will always reject that reality in every case. There is literally no convincing them of anything which in itself defines the actual mental disorder and not the external patterns of behavior... they will not listen.
In any case most all of the greatest minds in our history were pretty much loco so right or wrong were all in good company.

AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

allcanadian

@Mark
QuoteIf fundamental falsities are not addressed, then it is just a trip down
someone's garden path.  Is that what you want?
Sometimes it's not the destination but the journey that matters most and making mistakes are a fundamental part of learning.
QuoteAt various times people have lodged allegations against me for supposedly
doing things such as "twisting" their words.  When I have asked for examples of
the alleged bad behavior I none have been cited.
I know all of us have done this very thing at one point or another moreso me however you my friend are an exception to the rule. I cannot even imagine you doing such a thing...the nerve of some people, puny mortals, lol.

AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 26, 2015, 12:08:14 AM
So todays digital service technicians who dont know all about analog systems are probably crap at there job as well?.
Why would you conclude such a thing?  Wrenches are very basic things.  Here in the USA we have metric and imperial (SAE) sizes.  Anyone who has worked on cars even as a hobby has been exposed to both metric and SAE tools and hardware as very basic tools of the trade.  So someone who doesn't know the difference has been living in a hole somewhere.  A auto tech trained on digital will still know what a spark plug is and a coil even if they are not familiar with the old distributors with breaker points and a single common coil.