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Overunity Machines Forum



Sum of torque

Started by EOW, October 12, 2014, 05:36:02 AM

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dieter

Instead of a gyroscope you could use a gear system. I did that once, with wooden gears  :) , it really worked, the non-rotation I mean. Like, when the green radius is 1 and the grey radius is 3 then there needs to be a second gear on the axle of the gray one, radius 1 and speed 2 times that of the grey.


BR

EOW

You try to add gears to the device ?

I come back to the system with the spiral Maybe I can let a slope for the pipe and have Fp/2 on each reel with no torque.

EOW

Wheels don't turn at start but like the support turns at w clockwise => wheels turn counterclowkwise at w. There is friction between wheels => forces F. Each wheel give a counterclockwise torque to the support, but instead to give that torque to the support I give it to each gyroscope: magenta forces. The gyroscope can cancel a part of this torque. It's necessary to take one force from other wheel and distribute to each gyrocopes. I think each wheel can have a gyroscope, like that, wheels don't turn even there there is a torque on it, like that each gyroscope keep its position like I drawn. I drawn 6 wheels but it can be more. Each gyroscope turn in a perpendicular axis when it receives a torque.

Friction give heating but it's possible to use an electromagnetic device for recover the energy.

dieter

How do you handle the friction?


BR


EOW

Friction is an energy => heating. When I calculated the sum of work, the energy won by the heating is lost by the support: it receives a counterclockwise torque, but here with gyroscopes, the torque to the support can be reduced. The friction can be replaced by an electromagnetic device and recover the energy to the electric energy instead of use heating. Like gyroscope are always in that position, they never rotate (they rotate in a perpendicular plan), it must be possible to recover more energy even while a short time.

Maybe I don't understand the word "handle", all wheels don't turn in the lab frame reference => turn counterclockwise in the support reference. Each wheel touch 2 wheels => forces F.