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Overunity Machines Forum



Sum of torque

Started by EOW, October 12, 2014, 05:36:02 AM

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EOW

Right the number of balls of 3p must increase compared to the number of balls of p. Springs are used only for balls that are inside the curved shapes, not in the straight red shape. So the pressure adjust itself in the part where there is no spring: red straigth shape and especially when the curve shape becomes straight, or straight becomes curved. When a space increases between balls of 3p why spring necessary gives the work ? Why it's not a closer ball that can move ?


EOW

The idea is to increase the potential energy of this device. I increase the angular velocity of the torus more and more like that I can keep the relative position of the Object O always. I gave the position after 45°. Inside the Object O there is a lot of small balls, the pressure come from spring attached directly on the Object O. I create pressure on 2 sides of the Object O. Outside there is no pressure  (or near 0). The volume of the Object O is constant, so I don't lost the potential energy of the springs. The torus don't receive a torque from the Object O because it is composed of circle lines. And the sum of forces F1+F2 (in vector) at the center C2 is zero BECAUSE the pressure inside the Object O is adjust for have F1=F2 in value. The center C2 is fixed to the torus. The center C1 is fixed on the ground.

It is very important to have partial circle for 2 ends of Object O, like that there is only the torque from F1 and F2.

It is very important too, to have |F1|=|F2| in value, for that the pressure inside the object must be adjust.

I give the energy for rotate more and more the torus and the Object O on it but the Object O has more and more kinetic energy because it turns more and more too around the center C2. Give for receive :)

Like it's very important to have F1=F2, it's possible to use gravity but the device will be more complex. Pressure from balls are easier to do. The balls are smaller in reality.

Anf if possible to have F1>F2 like that there is a clockwise torque on the Object O and on the torus too.

The Object O keep the same angle relatively to the torus, so if I'm on the torus I see always the same angle from the torus and the Object O.

EOW

I give an image for show 8 positions of the device. It's possible to show the angle between the Oject O and the torus. Noted that the angular velocity of the torus increases like the angular velocity of the Oject O in the same time. It's very important to keep these two angular velocities exactly the same. The angular velocities I gave are in the laboratory reference (not in the torus for example).

I drawn big balls but they are really small in reality, it's important for prevent another torque on the Object O.

I drawn the device with balls above the torus, but it's a 2D drawing so I added another image with the torus inside the Object O, the torus pass throught the Object O. (S4.png)

I shows on s4.png the difference of the distances d1 and d2. Like the distances are not the same I need to adjust the pressure for have F1=F2 with balls.

I don't drawn the springs that attrack the balls but the springs are fixed on the Object O.

The energy is recover after. This device increases the potential energy. The Object O turns more and more quickly for free around its center of rotation C2. But I need to give an energy for rotates the torus, this energy can be recover later. If F1 can be higher than F2, in this case the torus has a clockwise torque too and it's possible to recover the energy in the same time. Noted that the angular velocity MUST increase more and more.








EOW

Pressure with balls is like water and gravity. The pressure is more and more higher at bottom, here the pressure at point p1 is greater than at point p0, so even d2>d1 it's possible to have F1=F2.
Balls are very small compared to the shape, in the contrary another small torque appear on the Object O. If the Object is 1 meter of size balls can be like 1cm. I drawn springs but it can be another technologie like magnets.

Note that even I can have F1>F2 the energy from the torus can't be recover in the same time, it's necessary to increase more and more the angular velocity. And at a time, recover all the energy from the torus and from the rotation of the Object O around its center of rotation C2.

EOW

Or for have F1=F2 in value I can use centrifugal force. I put a liquid inside the Object O. Like the Object O keep its relative position the centrifugal forces are always the same. Or use 2 liquids with different density for have F1=F2 and no other force on the center C2.

Or in one part of the Object 1 put a gas and in other part small balls (or a liquid). The goal is to have F1=F2 or F1>F2.

If I attrack balls from the torus I can have F1=F2 if I use the mean of the pressure. At bottom I will have the same pressure 10 but I can play with the start of the pressure, in one part I start with 0 to 10 and in other part I start from 8 to 10, like that I can have maybe F1>F2. The sum of forces on C2 from the springs is 0, I change just the mean not the final pressure. Balls must be compressible a littlefor transmit pressure in all directions.