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Sum of torque

Started by EOW, October 12, 2014, 05:36:02 AM

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EOW

With a unique disk +arm there is a problem with the linear momentum too. If I explode the disk after it rotates around itself the linear momentum is not conserved => antigravity device

EOW

The spring like that.

The spring increases its length.

The red arm receives a positive torque.

The disk receives a positives torque.

EOW

First idea:

I come back with the container full with springs and small balls. The pressure like a fluid inside the container. The part of the red solid is attrack with spring like that there is no force at "bottom". I need to take a special shape of the red solid, it is not a disk, it is an addition of circles in translation. With a circle I don't have a torque on the red solid from the pressure. With the shape I drawn I don't have a torque on the arm. The disk is always in the position I drawn because I accelerate the arm more and more.

The problem is I need to have an infinity of arms !

Second idea: start the devices each disk will rotates at w*cos(a) (not the perpendicular disk):

I can take 3 disks, 2disks and one disk in a perpendicular plane. I start the device, the 2 disks turns slower than the support so it's possible with friction between disks to accelerate the perpendicular disk, and in the same time 2 disks accelerates in the laboratory reference.

EOW

With 2 plates free in space to move up or down. The plates are in rotation. There is friction between the plates and the orange disk.

Or with 2 grey circles fixed to the ground. The orange torus increases its angular velocity in the labo reference. Don't forget friction gives an energy of heating. the best is to have the friction in one direction higher than in other direction. I want to decelerate the torus in the arm reference with friction but in this case the friction will slow down the red arm. If I can have the friction of rotation around the magenta axis equal to zero it's better. I would like to have the forces F1 and F2 on the torus and no force from friction on the axis of the torus like that the red arm don't decelerate. Even the red arm decelerate due to friction the energy is not lost it is in heating.

EOW

With the device in the same plane like I studied before. It's possible to use a belt. A unique belt. A belt without a mass. The belt has a friction. I use the friction of the belt to decrease the angular velocity of the disk (arm reference) like that I recover the energy from friction and the disk turns more in the garage reference.

I can take my idea of the message #74

http://overunity.com/15011/sum-of-torque/msg428104/#msg428104

The image case1.png

The belt is like a "8" shape.

The friction of the belt is not between the belt and the support nor the belt and the disk but when the belt changes its shape, at each time the belt change its angle.