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Gyroscopic Inertia Generator

Started by Scorch, October 18, 2014, 04:23:56 PM

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Scorch

11/9/14

Hello everybody.  :)

Just a quick update:
I've been very busy this last two weeks with many other priorities and projects that I have been completing (before winter sets in) and I simply haven't completed any additional assembly of this hobby-experiment.
Including but not limited to- Cutting down and processing large, dead, elm trees on the property, tearing out a wall and replacing an 80 year old tub faucet, building a "lean-to" shed next to garage complete with frame, roof, panels and finish, attending three different furry parties at three different locations, replaced transmission in step van #2, assemble a nixie tube clock kit, winterize some doors and windows and etcetera... All while, also, performing on various private contract obligations.... So, yes, the last two weeks have been pretty busy around here.... :P

I do intend to complete more soon and, of course, if anybody else is working on this experiment; they are certainly welcome to share here.
When it comes to peer review of a specific experiment; the more the better.  :)

Kindest regards.

Scorch

11/13/14

Hello all.  :)

I finally got around to completing some more assembly of the G1 today.
This is the three phase alternator stator.

No challenges building this sub-assembly and very straightforward.

Although I suggest that, as an educational-experimental device, the manufacturer should consider actually providing red and blue coils to go with the red, blue, and green coils of the drawings representing all three phases.
The separate colors would look cool in the acrylic frame and make it easier to keep track of the phases and wiring.

I did stray away from the original specifications, just a little, and placed the jumper on the other side of the switches instead of having the wires reach around to the other side of the switches per the drawing.
The circuit is still the same and the switches will merely operate in the opposite direction to do the same things.

The switches provide for the capabilities of reconfiguring the three phase alternator, on the fly, so that a simple flip of the switch changes from "Delta" to "Star" configuration or any combination between.

That is all for now.

Hope to complete more soon.

Kindest regards.

}:>

PS: Just finished watching the new video about John Bedini's stuff and found that to be very interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDoz5vgkTOI
It appears that JB was right all along and he did show us way back then.
Apparently I, and others, merely fail to get it until it's spelled out . . . one baby step at a time...
And most are not taking advantage of the mechanical output such as simply installing a high efficiency, three phase, alternator with phase modification switches. . .

JB's stuff does appear to work but there is a lot of 'fine tuning' here and there to obtain highest efficiencies and I am inclined to go back to some of those old experiments for further review.


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MileHigh

Scorch:

QuotePS: Just finished watching the new video about John Bedini's stuff and found that to be very interesting.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDoz5vgkTOI
It appears that JB was right all along and he did show us way back then.
Apparently I, and others, merely fail to get it until it's spelled out . . . one baby step at a time...
And most are not taking advantage of the mechanical output such as simply installing a high efficiency, three phase, alternator with phase modification switches. . .

JB's stuff does appear to work but there is a lot of 'fine tuning' here and there to obtain highest efficiencies and I am inclined to go back to some of those old experiments for further review.

There is nothing in that clip.  It's just an attempt to sell more books.

Between Aaron and Peter, they have 45 years worth of experience with Bedini motors.  They make a claim about how to get over unity from a Bedini motor, they have a running setup in the clip, and yet they make no attempt to make any output measurements.

Aaron acknowledged that a Bedini motor loses 70% of the source battery power, and only transfers 30% of the source battery power into the charging battery.  Then he makes a big lie by stating that even though the charging battery is only getting 30% of the source battery energy, it will be recharged up to 90%.   So Aaron is claiming that some "magic" happens.

In another bizarre twist, Aaron is incapable of making the distinction between mechanical output and waste heat.  Aaron believes the bearing friction and the air friction of the spinning rotor is "unaccounted for mechanical output" when in fact it's useless waste heat output that forms part of the 70% of useless waste heat output of the motor.

It's very similar to the fact that Aaron does not understand the physics and energy dynamics of a bouncing ball.  Aaron claims that a bouncing ball is COP >1 which is ridiculous.

So there is nothing new in that latest video from Aaron and Peter.  The only thing they did was add a pick-up coil and FWBR to drive a bank of LEDs.  Big deal, experimenters have been doing that for years.

MileHigh

Scorch

Hey MileHigh.  :)

Sorry to learn none these systems ever work in your reality.

In my reality, I do believe Dr. Peter Lindemann is honest and after a preliminary review of the Bedini trilogy and included HD video, I have already gained new knowledge after just a few minutes of quick review, I'm now ready to try some new experiments (such as operating in attraction mode for better efficiency and higher RPM), and I do believe my money was well spent.  ;D

And, BTW, it appears the potentiometer on the G1 will allow me to produce relatively the same effect as Bedini's "Trigger Shift Switch" and "Common Ground Mode" where the current will rise and slowly fall back with increased rpm and, of course, combined pulse motor & 3-phase rectified output.

Kindest regards;

}:>


Quote from: MileHigh on November 14, 2014, 10:48:03 AM
Scorch:

There is nothing in that clip.  It's just an attempt to sell more books.

Between Aaron and Peter, they have 45 years worth of experience with Bedini motors.  They make a claim about how to get over unity from a Bedini motor, they have a running setup in the clip, and yet they make no attempt to make any output measurements.

Aaron acknowledged that a Bedini motor loses 70% or the source battery power, and only transfers 30% of the source battery power into the charging battery.  Then he makes a big lie by stating that even though the charging battery is only getting 30% of the source batery energy, it will be recharged up to 90%.   So Aaron is claiming that some "magic" happens.

In another bizarre twist, Aaron is incapable of making the distinction between mechanical output and waste heat.  Aaron believes the bearing friction and the air friction of the spinning rotor is "unaccounted for mechanical output" when in fact it's useless waste heat output that forms part of the 70% of useless waste heat output of the motor.

It's very similar to the fact that Aaron does not understand the physics and energy dynamics of a bouncing ball.  Aaron claims that a bouncing ball is COP >1 which is ridiculous.

So there is nothing new in that latest video from Aaron and Peter.  The only thing they did was add a pick-up coil and FWBR to drive a bank of LEDs.  Big deal, experimenters have been doing that for years.

MileHigh

MileHigh

Scorch:

Unfortunately you have to take nearly every statement from Aaron and Peter with a grain of salt.  They are just two ordinary guys with a very limited understanding of electronics that have been winging it this whole time.  Neither of them has any educational training in electronics and with one scratch, it shows.

I remember seeing debates in Bedini forums over things like, "Are all North facing magnets better than all South facing?"  For the massive "Windmill motor" (What did it actually do?) Bedini himself made statements that it had to be oriented differently depending on whether you were in the Northern Hemisphere or the Southern Hemisphere.  Both of these things are nonsense.  I believe the giant Windmill motor was sold for scrap.

So as far as operating in attraction mode goes, getting better efficiency and a higher RPM is highly suspect.  There is no real difference between attraction mode and repulsion mode when it comes to driving the rotor.  If you do a quick test and do observe differences, then you have to investigate more.  You have to do a precise timing analysis of what is happening in the attraction and repulsion modes.  You have to track the voltages, currents, and the electrical power flow and the mechanical power flow into the spinning rotor.  It's not necessarily easy to make these kinds of precise measurements, but with some determination it can be done.  The conclusion will be that there is no real difference between operating the motor in attraction mode vs. repulsion mode.  Likewise, among some Bedini enthusiasts, there is a belief that "North is better than South" when there is no difference between the two.

They make a clip promoting a Bedini motor as a potential over unity device when you factor in everything properly.  Forgetting the flaws in their logic about the mechanical output power, look at that clip again.  They measured the input power with two multimeters.  They made no attempt whatsoever to measure the output power in the charging battery, and they made no attempt whatsoever to measure the output power into the bank of LEDs - and yet that is the thrust of their whole presentation.  The mind boggles sometimes.

MileHigh