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Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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plengo

ON the first post I added a PDF of the Logs. It looks awful but it is a start.

Fausto.

Heavens Pavement

today i tried a quick n dirty experiment , copper and copper in a solution of epsom and another in alum.
espom one turned solution blue/green, positive copper(pipe) a almost yellowish look...interesting, the negative (coiled26 wire), well it got eaten and turned into a darkish goo.
the Alum solution turned that pretty red like when i use a torch and the black falls off, and before my posits scrawny alligator clip smoked, cough cough the positive(pipe again) started to get that pretty red. the negative (flattened #12 wire was getting a black layer.
BTW my 30v poet supply didn't like the experiment , prob too much amps i guess, so i used my alum converted lead battery at about11.75 volts.
my new Fausto triple wrap cell was about 1.42 v i put it on my blocking oscillater.It light my white led kinda dim, checked on it 20 minutes later and was brighter..no water added,this was after yesterdays sizzle treatment.
Forgot to put it on the radio shack meter to chart it, loooong work day...

tgraca

I have only seen Bedini work with Mn2O3 and not Mn2O2 or MnO2. He warned about the dangers of Mn2O3.
From my notes:
MnO2 - Manganese(IV): (not toxic - from Pyrolusite ore)
- low toxicity and low environmental impact, and...
- - no changes in chemical composition at less than 450 degrees F
- - (ref. Batteries and Energy Technology (General) - 217th ECS Meeting, Issue 30)
- aka cryptomelane
- heating with oxygen at 450-800 F produces α-Mn2O3
- Mn2O3 is formed by the redox reaction in an alkaline cell
- - 2 MnO2 + Zn → Mn2O3 + ZnO
Mn2O3 - Manganese(III) (toxic - from Braunite ore)
- aka oxo-(oxomanganiooxy)manganese
Mn2O2 - Manganese(II) (toxic)
- aka birnessite or manganese tetraoxide

From wikipedia: The principal use for MnO2 is for dry-cell batteries, such as the alkaline battery and the zinc-carbon battery.
MnO2 is also used as a pigment and as a precursor to other manganese compounds, such as KMnO4.
It is used as a reagent in organic synthesis, for example, for the oxidation of allylic alcohols.

tgraca

Shortened the copper pipe and using less mag strip - 34"
The cost of this battery for me is about $0.35 and takes little time to build
no cooking or charging - in my previous post, I noted the issue with the thermo-electric charge heating things up over 450 degrees F
specifically, toxic gases...

Video for Crystal Battery Build #359: http://youtu.be/Wj_imbez8iQ

This formula is similar battery #354, which is doing well after a week.
6 parts activated carbon
3 parts Epsom salt
1 parts hydrate #5
1 parts MnO2
thick borax/water mix coated on twine and coffee filter over mag. strips
filtered water blended to make a thick paste for electrolyte and main formula

approx. 10 minutes to build one, but will try to slim that to 5 minutes...
The key new feature is manganese IV - thank you Fausto!
These batteries are much stronger, and my builds are getting smaller and stronger thanks to your idea contribution of manganese IV!!!

tgraca

The cell was what I consider dead in less than 20 hours this morning.
It was showing less than 750 mV with less than a 250 uA (1/4 mA) draw on my blinker circuit.
I hooked it up to one of my low power JT's and that's where it is now.

The problem with this Fausto Sizzle process is that it adds a crap load of new variables, like voltage used, amperage used,
electorlyte dryness or wetness, the amount of electrolyte and air, etc... the list goes on. If you want a replicatable process,
you have to remove as many variables as possible.

Also, if you looked at my post on manganese, you will see that if it heats the cell to over 450 degrees F, there is a very
real possibility of creating toxic gasses. Finally, if cost is an issue, which it is for me, you have to consider the cost of
power used to create these cells, which complicates matters significantly.

Fausto... since I won't be doing this "Fausto Sizzle" any more, let me know if you want me to move my posts somewhere
else. I like having an outlet and would rather post here, and I think my experiments might help you in some way, but if you
think it will be an issue, let me know and I will start a new thread.

Thank you so much for your contribution to my research so far. The MnO2 was a major step forward for me. -t

PS - I really did enjoy finding power sources for the Fausto Sizzle and making a big mess with our intense monkey style! lol
One thing I learned from that first 47 minute video is that if you have copyrighted music playing in the background too loud,
YouTube will put ads in your video, even if it is unlisted, for the copyright owners, which is really uncool. If you have 99%
original material on your videos, owned by you, YT trumps this... I fought a battle with them on me using public domain
video and won, but their intellectual property policies are not only unfair, but fraudulent... - FYI - but it's nice to have a place
to post videos, so cudo's to YT at least for that!