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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

bleach cell with 8.25% NaClO and Espom. So... That bleach smell , which was horrible is finally gone, but so is the cell...
Less than 400 mV under load... it's been dead all day, so I finally tried to pull the core mag out, and it broke right off...
Video on the build: http://youtu.be/BXoVU7P5rHk

See the picture, but my conclusion with sodium hypochlorite (NaClO) and Epsom as an Electrolyte...
ABSOLUTE worst out of my 360+ cells... lol Enjoy the pic! As I said before, when it comes to sodium hypochlorite...
Just say No!!! IT lasted 3.5 days at best.... I don't even want to try to recycle the copper pipe... it's green!

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 02, 2014, 02:00:47 PM
Here's the video on the complete build... actually.. I have another video I am working on to show the hookup to the circuit I sent Fausto with 2 polarized caps... I'll be interested to see how long this cell powers it.
http://youtu.be/ZnLn2yR7DQU
It stopped working with the JT I had it hooked up to yesterday, so I hooked it up to a really low powered JT and it was
looking pretty weak tonight, so I pulled it... 844 mV withOUT load... zero mA, but that might have been the connection
from the alligator clip to the top of the mag strip. So I pulled the mag core and it was wet... put it back in and the mV
reading was 1158 and it started out at over 12 mA on short and hovered a little less than 3 mA on short for 15 seconds.
I went to pull the core again and it snapped in half. I washed it out and there was almost nothing left of the middle of
the mag core. The taped end was still intact, but there was only 1 strip intact between the top and the bottom... The rest
of it looked like it had been absorbed into the wetness that we left...

Conclusion: I burned up the mag strips in the "Fausto Sizzle"! lol ... It's not near as bad as #360, but might be my
second worst cell ever! lol

plengo

Quote from: tgraca on December 06, 2014, 04:59:35 PM
PS - Awesome Cells... the best I have seen... I came up with 8272 joules... for 3 cells, that would be 2757 per cell...
An AAA NiMh cell rated at 3000 aH and 1.2 V would give (based on the rating) 9,000,000 joules... please check my math too...
I get these for a little less than $0.60 delivered, so the only real advantage to crystal batteries is that we can build them with stuff
from home... in my humble opinion... and they are fun to play with! lol


The maths is incorrect. A AAA battery like you mentioned will have 3000 mA/H not 3000 A/H (milliAmp/hour, not Amp/hour). So in the end you have a total of around 13 thousand joules not 9 million joules.
see: http://hypertextbook.com/facts/2001/KhalidaNisimova.shtml
btw: I don't think those NiMh batteries give you 3000 mA/h at all. I think they give MAX 1800 mA/h.


So comparing the cell on my graphs (cell #149) and counting that they are not going to die so soon, that cell in the graph is really a gigantic winner.


Now, I did test those cells against 3 AAA batteries (all under the exact same watts/load) and in the end I had to recharge those 3 AAA 3 times and my cell was still running. So I got tired and stopped the experiment happy that my cell out ran all the commercial batteries hands down.


Fausto.

tgraca

Quote from: plengo on December 08, 2014, 09:49:45 PM
The maths is incorrect. A AAA battery like you mentioned will have 3000 mA/H not 3000 A/H (milliAmp/hour, not Amp/hour). So in the end you have a total of around 13 thousand joules not 9 million joules.
see:
btw: I don't think those NiMh batteries give you 3000 mA/h at all. I think they give MAX 1800 mA/h. Fausto.
Mine are rated at 3000 mA/hours... thanks for the correction! That makes me feel a little better about my efforts....
Did you see my video about the crystal cell/JT generating over 40 volts? I am studying the Patrick Kelly documentation
(again) on how to use this to charge batteries... fun!

tgraca

Quote from: tgraca on December 08, 2014, 12:53:05 PM
Crystal Batteries #'s 356-357 - created Dec. 1, 2014 (7 days old today)
356 - original reading under load 870 mV - white LED
- current reading 638 mV = 232 mV total loss
- average loss 33 mV per day
357 - original reading under load 930 mV - green LED
- current reading 675 mV = 255 mV total loss
- average loss 36 mV per day
These were the same build and same JT, but different color LED's, which although are rated the same, are slightly different.
There is still enough light for a nightlight, but when they get down to around 600 mV, I will add some water and reseal.
356 - was down to 623 mV today, so I injected 3 mL of water and sealed it again.
         An hour later, it is showing 691 mV (under load). It would be nice if the next maintenance would be in 7+ days.
357 - it is showing 660 mV (under load), so I left it alone. We'll see how long it last before it gets to near 600 mV.