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Overunity Machines Forum



Crystal Cell Research for Experimenter

Started by plengo, October 24, 2014, 11:36:59 AM

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tgraca

Quote from: MarkE on January 03, 2015, 03:15:03 PM
Wires work fine as resistors at low frequency.
Not sure what the issue is... I will wind one with 20 AWG instead of 23 AWG and see if that helps. I just tried it without the resistor for fun.
Got my 3055 transistor caught on video burning up with 22 amps! lol

tgraca

This seems to be my best running cell so far... 17 days before first maintenance.. ran 25 more days until today's second maintenance cycle.
Crystal Battery #354 - Built Nov. 26
Nov 27 - 1.21 volts
Nov 28 - 1080 mV
Nov 29 - 1083 mV
Dec 01 - 1065 mV
Dec 3 -  1056 mV (7 days)
Dec 10 - 925 mV (14 days)
Dec 13 - 413 mV - added 3 mL of water - day 17
- 1203 mV (day 0)
Jan 2  - 855 mV (day 20)
Jan 7 - 386 mV - light still on dimly - added water with syringe/sealed - day 25
- 1005 mV under load

tgraca

I was working with Polymer, Iron powder, Activated charcoal, Water, Vermiculite and Salt about a year ago and have revisited that
over the last 2 weeks. I have added the MnO2 and hydrate 5. I think using magnesium and carbon instead of magnesium and copper will
work much better, but am waiting on some carbon fiber rods. I'll make a video on this when I begin these new builds.
Magnesium and carbon have the best potential for the highest volts as DiveFlyFish showed a few years back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLfNB_dQE_Y

We'll see if it is his electrolyte or the electrodes that proves 3 volts from one cell... I don't have easy access to some of the ingredients
in his electrolyte mix, so I have used my notes on Bedini's chemistry lessons on my new electrolyte mix, primarily to absorb off-gassing.
I really don't think the electrolyte matters much, except for off-gassing and galvanic effects... the same power could come from just
Epsom salt... we'll see...

plengo

NO I am not dead.   ;D


Testing takes forEVERrrrrr. 


I have being testing this casted in resin cell that is about 1 year or more old running without adding any water at all. I cannot add water even if I wanted to because it is inside the resin cast.


She is running an incredible stable voltage of 1.49v+ running an LED. It is not bright to quit my job but in the night can really bother you. After this one year (or so) testing like that I decided to kill her by changing the load from the LED to a short with a 100 ohm resistor. The cell dropped voltage substantially until stabilized at a certain level. I removed that load and put it back to the LED where she reached the level of 1.47+v and she is slowly climbing up.


I hated to have to do this final "shorting the cell" test but it is science and one must do it. I learned a very important fact that was bugging me for years.


If a cell (that works) presents a constant voltage under load, this cell will continue on that level UNTIL you apply a different load where it will try to balance it out again. Unfortunately if the new load is higher, in other words, lower resistance load, the cell WILL SUFFER a CORROSION effect until a new balance is found. The new balanced level will be lower than before but still steady again.


Once you form the cell for a particular load you MUST leave it as it is now until the end of the daysssssss.


Well, that was one cell. I replicated this one cell twice more and all are running the exact same. They run forever without changing the voltage in any substantial way under load. I am talking about a guaranteed constant voltage up to 3 digits. While at the 4 digit and on it will simply go up and down constantly but remaining same overall average voltage.


Off course all this testing is running on my only graph meter and my laptop recording this months of boring test BUT hey, it is showing by empirical data that the cell indeed works.


Lessons learned:


1 - Water must be retained. Not too much, not too little.
2 - Some initial corrosion will happen but it must be limited until crystal forms and all the water content is merged to the internal structure of the crystal.
3 - Lower internal resistance is better but also causes the final voltage balance under load to be reduced.
4 - The load must be CONSTANT and the cell MUST be formed for the load only.
5 - Avoidance of contact with air is EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
6 - Violent vibration/shocks can destroy the crystals inside and make the cell useless.
7 - The most important, NEVER ADD ANY WATER AGAIN.


Soon I will show some pics of the cell and the graph.


Fausto.

Pirate88179

Plengo:

Nice work! I like the sealed cell idea except for one possible exception.  If it keeps the air out, which appears to be a good idea from your tests, then will it not keep any gasses formed inside?  This also may be good and why it works as it does.  What I am wondering about, is the possibility of an explosion if the pressure inside gets too high?  I mean, if pressure were building up, you could not really tell could you?

Other than that, it appears to be a great step forward and I wish you the best with your work.

What if this cell lasts forever?  The Duracell folks might want to take you out, ha ha.

Bill
See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen