GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

[polln8r]

Perhaps the most important information we have right now, given what we've learned so far... the only concrete thing about any of this:

[MileHigh]

Even though it's probably very easy to do, offering t-shirts still shows that there is some slickness to this whole operation.  I bet you they will ship out t-shirts promptly if they get orders for them.  That will make some believers convinced that this thing is real.

There is confusion in the storyline so far, but that plays into a dramatic build-up to mid-December and that is probably hooking people and reeling them in.  There are also "Big Fish" stories with the talk about 10 machines in existence, etc.  I believe there is only one box, the one seen in the video.  They bought a real generator, removed the guts from the frame, canabalized some parts like the AC outlets and the emergency stop button and then built their big black box with a hand-held jigsaw cutter.

If the average 50% down payment is say $4000, and they get 50 orders, that's $200,000.

What about people that ordered from Magnacoaster?  From what I understand no one got delivery and no one got their money back.

If you are in South Carolina, or England, what do you do if your PayPal account does a $2500 CDN transfer into the GDS account and you don't get delivery?  Put the time frame in May 2015.  In other words, you have reluctantly accepted the three or four stories from GDS that were supposedly explaining the reasons for the delays in shipping and it is now May 2015 and you are starting to wake up.

So, you ordered something in December 2014, it is now May 2015, and you have nothing and you still haven't heard the confirmation from GDS that they are ready to ship so you can pay the remaining 50%.  What can you really do?  The "supplier" is in a foreign country, and you are basically on your own.  Do you go to the police and say, "I bought a water-powered generator and the foreign supplier is not delivering."  You are going to get some strange looks.

There is a sucker born every minute.

[MileHigh]

Some interesting links:

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/ccb-sddc/fraud-fraude-eng.htm

Mass Marketing Fraud

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The RCMP has undertaken a joint task force / integrated approach with our partners to combat the problem. In 2001, the RCMP joined PhoneBusters as a full partner with the Ontario Provincial Police. Examples of integrated projects that involve domestic and international partners are projects COLT (Montreal) and EMPTOR (Vancouver). These alliances have been successful in identifying and arresting international criminals.

The Internet is becoming a medium of choice for mass solicitation by these types of criminals. Internet based fraudulent solicitations originating from West Africa are reported to the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre at a rate of 1000 to 1500 per day. Partners continue to better educate and safeguard Internet users. This is driven by a guarded approach - "Recognize it, Report it, Stop it." If people believe they have been a victim of mass marketing fraud, they can lodge complaints through their local police detachment or the Canadian Anti-Fraud Centre at 1-888-495-8501.

http://www.antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca/english/index.html

How To Report Fraud

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Ways to report fraud

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    On-line: https://www.antifraudcentre-centreantifraude.ca

    Toll Free: 1-888-495-8501

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[MileHigh]

Big Fish Story:

http://pesn.com/2014/10/28/9602558_Greg-Potter_tells-me-to_wait-two-weeks-to-plan-my-visit/

Another thing Greg shared with me is that they moved out of their factory facility yesterday to move to a much larger, more secure facility, because they want to quadruple the rate of production they had initially planned on (previous plan: 400/month). (Sterling's comment: That will still be ~1000x less than the demand once people realize this is real.) They saw someone out front taking pictures of their facility yesterday, which accelerated the urgency of move. "Everything is out of the building, as of 3am." For their security, I won't convey the exact number of hundreds of thousand square feet he cited for the new facility, but I will say it is impressive.

You may as well milk it for all that it's worth....

Big Fish Rebuttal from PA32R:

Moved out of their facility yesterday? I was barely able to move out of a one bedroom apartment in one day. Yet he was so overwhelmed by the orders that he: 1) decided he had to move; 2) secured another facility; 3) packed up all his manufacturing facilities, office facilities, inventory (remember, he's showing completed units and claiming to manufacture them), etc.; 4) notified his employees and vendors; 5) secured transportation; 6) moved and at least unloaded all of the above. Sure.

"Number of hundreds of thousands of square feet" implies that "number" is at least one. So you're stating that the new facility is at least 100,000 square feet. That's at least 2.3 acres minimum. An acre is about the size of an American football field, so over two of those AT A MINIMUM? And he secured in on a day's notice? This cannot be taken seriously.

Poor Stuart wigged out on PA32R's comment.

I despise reality shows and never watch them but we sure could use one called "Scambusters!!!"  Plan B is to call a toll-free number.

[MileHigh]

I kid you not...