GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

[profitis]

Ya @markdansie.maybe I shud listen to you  and do what is considerded a standard procedure,a full-blown experimento with flashy lights an go same way as rossi(and now potter) wif sexi one word answers,'bes regards','we are completing it','this is correct','I likey you',hasta lavista bapay' lol.this line of mentality appears to work with these kids here on ou lol

[profitis]

@milehigh I hear you I hear you man but jus remember you asked the queshun.I gave a straight answer

[mscoffman]

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Chet
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Quite honestly I am interested in Nothing more than qualifying This Claim.PERIOD

Thx
Chet

Godspeed ramset.
Just do the best you can relative to effective measurements...be true this December.

:MarkSCoffman

[markdansie]

Ya @markdansie.maybe I shud listen to you  and do what is considerded a standard procedure,a full-blown experimento with flashy lights an go same way as rossi(and now potter) wif sexi one word answers,'bes regards','we are completing it','this is correct','I likey you',hasta lavista bapay' lol.this line of mentality appears to work with these kids here on ou lol

Yes its hard to beat logic and reality. Rossi failed to present his case in an acceptable, repeatable way. This water powered device is just a scam and not even wasting time over. And like every other overunity and perpetual motion claims (although there are some interesting ones like your pet project that cant be fully explained) they all end up on the scrap heap...theory unsupported.
No room for semantics
Kind regards
Mark

[MileHigh]

Chet:

I spoke with Mr.Potter a few minutes ago ,he will allow us to do a black Box demo in Mid December.
I explained a brief protocol which would require Run times an order of magnitude greater then
the batteries involved.
"NO PROBLEM WHATSOEVER " was the reply.

Great, so the next step is to not fall for any potential bait and switch.  Ask him to define the setup and the test protocol right now.  Ask him to write a spec that can be shared on this thread.  Ask him to have it ready within two weeks.  The spec should have pictures of the device under test and all of the load components and all of the measurement components.  The duration of the test must be specified and the four batteries need to be specified for make and model number.

So he allegedly has a 5-kilowatt device.  What will the power output be during the test?  What will his load be and how will it be wired up?  Will there be one or more scopes to look at the voltage waveform and the current waveform?  No scopes is a non-starter as far as I am concerned.  I take nothing for granted, and the voltage waveform has to be scoped.  Do you need a HV probe for 320 volts peak-to-peak voltage readings?  (Showing my lack of familiarity because I never had a reason ever to look at mains power with a scope and I have forgotten things like max input range with a regular probe.)  What current sensing resistor will be used?  For sure there are industrial current sensing resistors for high power applications.  If he doesn't have one he can order one on DigiKey.  Or, will he use clamp-on meters?  Or a current probe?  It would be preferable to see two or more live measurements of the current with two different methods.  What makes and models for all of this equipment?  It would be a requirement to see a clear unambiguous measurement of the output power for the observers all of the time during the test.  What kind of load?  5 kilowatts is a LOT.  So will the load be implemented with baseboard heaters?  Which baseboard heaters?  If the answer is yes can you bypass the rheostat so they don't shut down?

There is absolutely no need for monkeyshines with respect to the load.  No changing of the load during the test, like connecting a power drill, etc.  That's crap.  What would be preferable in my opinion would be something like a baseboard heater load where people can actually FEEL the heat generated.  Chances are most of the time hot air would have to be blown out a window with fans connected to the regular mains power.  It all has to be in the spec.  No crap like, "Oh sorry, we didn't realize the room was going to get so hot so we have to shut the test down prematurely."  No CRAP like that, period.

Where will the test take place?  Is there proper air circulation?   Will there be seating for some independent observers?

I am just rattling stuff off of the top of my head.  TK is the real person for precise information and recommendations because he has the real-world experience.  MarkE and Picowatt may also have some expertise.

I am just sketching out minimum requirements so there no bogus nonsense or potential for bait and switch subterfuge going on.  Do you remember the Steorn demo where the "bearings got too hot under the lights."  Remember the second Steorn demo with nonsensical Perspex pulse motors?

Do you get it Chet?  We have to see a spec that is fleshed out so that when people go, they know what the layout will be, and they know what the setup will be right down to the load components and all of the measurement components.

A spec must be generated by GDS if they want to be credible.  I am sure by now the GDS guy is reading this thread.  Pleas call/email him and get it going.  There simply can't be a repeat of Sterling's South African fiasco.

MileHigh