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GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

Started by ramset, October 25, 2014, 09:24:26 PM

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I kind of get the photo shop thing everyone here would be more excited by a schematic and reading on a multimeter than aesthetics but the average joe consumer wants polish.

If i understand the test will be a closed box test if it ever happens and we are being told that new models are being built so we cant assume the unit we review will be the same inside as current unit. I know if i am working on an invention i trial and error all sorts of things until i finally work it out so a lot of legacy components may still be in the system. We see a lot of things simply not  even connected on his prototype box.

So if closed box and new model is there a rule of thumb we can use to calculate maximum power density of the unit assuming latest technology. Ie graphene, lithium air or lithium salt water batteries, chemical, nuclear reaction etc remember he just said it would only run for 12 hours than had to cool.  So if he can come up with a way of jamming enough batteries , chemicals or whatever to generate 3000 watts for 12 hours he passes the test and get endorsed by the team.   

markdansie

Quote from: FatBird on November 05, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
Good points Ramset.

If I were in charge of this site, I would Permanently DISBAR the Trolls & Nay Sayers in a New York Minute!!!!
There are a few here that have NEVER, EVER contributed anything positive!!
They are nothing but a NEGATIVE DRAIN on innovative positive ideas!!
                                                                                                                                   .
Burn the books, execute all the scientists that the way to proceed. Lets turn energy research  into a faith where it belongs.
So go to Sterling's site they censor everything there and look at how many QmoGens they now have running.
But the scams still continue lol,
I vote for Fatbird as our fearless leader and to have the authority to censor anyone who dare suggests anything against unsupported claims.
Yeehaaa
Mark

ramset

Mark
You would be a good fellow to ask this question .
I know that I have mentioned this soooo many times here I have no breath left.


when You first solicit an inventor  and tell him you can help change his life and bring his invention to market .do you start from scratch with the prototype?  higher engineers to design Mundane things like wheels and chassis,   ancillary components etc etc


Or do you [like myself and THE REST OF THE WORLD] approach a factory that already makes a competitively priced good looking Unit and proceed right past the very expensive "ground Up " design stage to the meat and Potatoes of my specific needs ??


Mark, this is what you do after all,  you take opensource work [when you can find it] and put it up for sale.


or should I say "Help" get things out to the world [patents and such].


but getting back to real world business models for success on a tight budget [obviously not what some here have any experience with]


This is after all how it works.
you source your needs and build your product
it may take a few factories to get you there But.
??




OHH But Not here with this group of deep pocket entrepreneurs...
its more Like "giggle" snicker""
LOOK LOOK what I found !!


he's using this factories Chassis !!


and look look he has THAT factories Motor
OOH and Look he has this guys out lets ETC ETC ETC


HE DIDN"T BUILD THAT  >:( >:( >:( >:( 
This guy is a Crook.....
get the stones we need to Kill this thing !!


Really? ??? ??? ??
GEEEEESH


Sigh....
so you can't help yourselves


I get it....






 



Whats for yah ne're go bye yah
Thanks Grandma

TinselKoala

Chet, the problem seems to be that some people have more sensitive "bs detectors" than others. When someone comes along with an assembly of commercial off-the-shelf parts and makes extraordinary and not well supported or explained claims for the performance of this assembly... and appears to be following nearly the exact script that we have seen so many times before instead of doing it "right"... the bells and whistles start to ring loud and clear. For some people.

In the case of some claim like the present one... heck,  he could do a lot worse than just shipping off to you ( or Mark D, or me, or even Sterling) one of the "about ten" items that he already has built. It would cost a lot less than round-trip airfare to his location and you could test it to your heart's content, and nobody would worry about him cheating in some way, because we trust you (or Mark D, etc) to do a good and thorough and unrushed job of testing.
He could show us the scientific papers published on his break through technology. He could show us the electric bills from his house and factory! Or some photos of the assembly line. Or even a testimonial from someone who already has one of the ones he was selling in Mexico.

But instead what he shows is the same-old-same-old thing, following the Chuck Pierce script with only minor deviations. (He hasn't started insulting his critics yet.) 

I sincerely hope you do get to go see him and examine his devices, see his factory, test his claims. But this isn't in the script! The script says that he will postpone your visit, or that the device will break down just before you arrive and won't be fixed until after you leave.

If I had such a device... or ten of them... I'd be more than happy to send one off to you, MarkD, and anyone else qualified and willing to sign my NDA. But if I already had patent protection why even bother with an NDA? Unbox it, follow the easy-to-read bilingual instructions, and then test away, take it apart, do your damnedest to prove me wrong in my claims. If you can, then we are all better off. If you can't... then I am instantly rich beyond my wildest dreams, for a little while before the entire world economy collapses.

Don't be too critical of the critics, Chet... we haven't been wrong yet, as far as I can tell, and we gain nothing from being right. But, for example, Sterling... has been wrong over and over and over again, but people still send him money for his "testing" vacations to places like South Africa and Greece, etc. What is wrong with this picture?

MileHigh

Quote from: FatBird on November 05, 2014, 07:23:17 PM
Good points Ramset.

If I were in charge of this site, I would Permanently DISBAR the Trolls & Nay Sayers in a New York Minute!!!!
There are a few here that have NEVER, EVER contributed anything positive!!
They are nothing but a NEGATIVE DRAIN on innovative positive ideas!!

That is not a true statement at all, Fatbird.

Some of the people with sensitive "bs meters" have made tons of positive contributions around here.

TinselKoala has been making informative replication videos for years, as well as making hundreds of educational and interesting videos covering a wide range of subjects discussed on this forum.

MarkE shares his considerable knowledge and expertize with people that are building various devices in order to help them.  I even used to do that a long time ago.  He also discusses and explains stuff relating to electronic circuits and myriad of other scientific matters, the list is very long.

Between myself and TK, we created the MHOP pulse motor, and TK fully documented the process in in a series of videos.  That is the most advanced, most flexible, and highest performing pulse motor architecture ever seen on the forums.  Ironically enough it is also very simple.

And there are many other people that I am not mentioning that criticize when they deem it appropriate, and also make similar positive contributions.

The contributions from this group of people enriches the forum and makes it a better place.  Some threads have real substance and when you look at the equivalent threads on say the Energetic Forum, they are just "puff pieces."

And what about you Fatbird?  In the last year you might have posted between 10 and 20 links to YouTube clips that were such amateur or obvious fakes that the threads got no attention at all.  That shows that you have almost no functioning "bs meter."  That is not a positive contribution to this forum at all.

So, Fatbird, hopefully this posting put your usual rant in perspective and you will acknowledge the great positive contributions that come from people that you disagree with.

MileHigh