GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

[MarkE]

I fully agree with the statements regarding the first to file changes last year and that to secure the rights to a disclosure there is only one real option, and that is to file a disclosure with the patent office. The decision to not file a legitimate disclosure is confusing at best. There are significant advantages to keeping an inventors notebook and this will certainly assist in bolstering any claims. As I am not a patent attorney I can not advise on the opportunities to invalidate another inventors disclosure if you can demonstrate prior art and intent within a 12  month period of first disclosing your invention.   I can only suggest he should engage the appropiate people in support of his claim and file as soon as possible.

It is too late for him to file in most locations.  He has advertised the unit for sale.  That closes the patent door in most countries.  The US remains an exception.  There is a year's grace there.

[Magluvin]

Mags:

There are several problems with that.  First, it is censorship, which is an ugly word and probably has no place on an "OPEN SOURCE" website. 
Second, this idea would allow folks like the QEG group to continue to post bogus claims (while continuing to raise money by fraud) without allowing anyone with a differing (and correct) opinion to post.

I think the issue here is really nothing more than good moderation.  Not biased moderation, nor clickish moderation, but true and well done moderation.

So, if someone posts a "proven overunity device" as a topic, and someone else asks who has proven it and where are the test results, it is not considered trolling to ask a legit question.  In your suggested approach, (if I understand it correctly) no one who might ask such a question would ever be allowed into that group so, folks could be deceived for a long, long time.  What is that harm with that?  Well, decent folks working hard for their money would find themselves ordering parts and components to attempt to replicate a fake device that never had a chance of ever working.  We have seen that many times here...too many times.

Now, to your point. (as I see it)  If I make a topic that says I have discovered something interesting and want folks to look at it, and the next post says..."Your Mother was a ", I think we can all agree that this is not constructive and should be dealt with by a good Moderator.

If someone asks..."Why do you think it is interesting and where are your measurements?"  I should not claim that they are from the MIB and blocking my attempt to share valuable info.

Folks should be able to ask questions of a claimant...any one should be able to do so.  If the claimant thinks he/she is being attacked because they have been asked legit questions...then...too bad.  If they are indeed being bashed for no reason...then a good Moderator should step in.

Open source should be open.

Anyway, my 2.975 cents on the matter.

Bill

Im not saying every thread be group threads. 

Lets say if some group wanted to write a book on a subject. The publisher does not inject many pages from skeptics of the ideas in the book. And why dont the publishers do that?? Censorship??

It has nothing to do with censorship by allowing a group to have a clean thread. The skeptics can make their own thread in order not to be censored, being its all on the same site. Moderation does not keep a thread clean. All the crap is still posted. Most of the time its temporary banning then back to the same littering by them or someone else. 

OUR has private groups. And its not about censorship or hiding things from being open source. Its about a comfortable place to be when people want to discuss a subject without page after page of harassment. There are also open threads on most of the subjects that are discussed in group threads.

Mags

[MarkE]

Reality may be a cruel mistress, but the only thing she harasses is delusion.

[Magluvin]

Reality may be a cruel mistress, but the only thing she harasses is delusion.

Yeah. I suppose so.

Like in U.S. schools, instead of teaching how and why our for fathers helped guide this country into the great nation that it 'was', they teach more that they were slave drivers and that Alah is the only god down to the 3rd grade. But if you say "Jesus" or the like, the child gets suspended.    Yeah, reality at its best. So no sense in 'trying' to make things any better. If the screw machine aint broke, dont fix it?

A thread such as this one, yeah, open thread. Nobody has any idea on how to build or experiment the contraption. Shown a lot but not enough. Like Kapanadze, people try things, but there is not enough to go on to really do any testing at all. But when someone does prepare to show and put forth info for replication, then there should be no interference of negativity or pestering. If someone wants to build the device in retribution to the claim to prove it does not work, then that is all that is needed. Insults and name calling is just pure immaturity. Or is it something else?

When I see that kind of garbage toward others with ideas, I either think, 'This dude is a real jerk', or, 'Why are they coming down on this guy so hard.'  'Why do they push so hard to make the person look so bad?'  'Is it because they may really have something??'  Or is it something else.

Mags

[Nink]

One of the features I really like about the GDS 3000 5000 10000 or 15000 is they all have exactly the same size water tank as they all take 10 gallons to fill. This is fantastic. Does this mean no matter how much power you generate it will only ever require 10 gallons of water every 3 days?