GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

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Bill
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Chet

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There is a great YouTube guy named Thunderf00t and he also has a channel called Beautyintheuniverse.

Here is a clip about Solar Roadways.  They got $1.7 million in crowd funding.  He does a great job analyzing the proposition and says it's not real, it's not workable.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H901KdXgHs4&list=UUmb8hO2ilV9vRa8cilis88A

The clip is very convincing and may make you question the integrity of the people behind Solar Roadways.  It's important to note the actual analysis and how it is done.  The guy is phenomenal.  That process is the same as what takes place here.  Except on a thread you don't have the luxury of everything being cleaned up and neatly packaged in a clip.  And of course you get both pro and con opinions expressed on a thread.

Certainly there are a lot of dubious things that get huge amounts of crowd funding.  Is it a prop or is it a prototype?  You always have to be thinking about that.

I plucked a comment from YouTube:

Actually electric or solar generating roads are not that crazy or far off.  Graphene costs have gone down as the process is simplified so this will be as simple soon as painting roads with graphene based paint    This technology is well understood but turning water into energy without consuming more energy than is actually created is not curtently possible (until now if you believe this).

[TinselKoala]

Thunderf00t is one of my favorite YT commentators. You should hear him take on creationists and other religionists. He's almost an amateur version of Christopher Hitchens, God rest his soul.

[MileHigh]

Yes TK, Thunderf00t is great.  I suppose one of the reasons I posted it is because it illustrates evaluating a proposition on it's merits, both technically and financially.  He is also willing to debate with people and listen to them and make his case.

There is an implicit issue relative to this thread.  It's the "mute silence" issue.  Logical points are made that indicate something is amiss with GDS and the response from the supporters is mute silence.  Certainly mute silence does not make the issues raised go away.

Then sometimes attitude creeps in.  It can happen because something is perceived as being ridiculous or impractical.  It can happen because the impression is that the people putting forth the proposition might be criminal con artists.

Then the same people that respond with mute silence to the valid technical issues, they will seize on the attitude issue and cry foul.  The attitude issue is used as a smokescreen to obscure the real technical issues.  We see this over and over.

So the message is that if you are going to support somebody's free energy proposition, then you need to respond to the valid technical and other issues raised about the proposition.  Mute silence about  the issues does not make these issues go away.  Moaning and groaning about some attitude does not make the issues go away either.

As I stated before, there are probably between 15 and 25 valid issues about this GDS "just add water" generator and the company itself.  The responses to most of them have been mute silence.

Well, we are just over four weeks before a test is done on a generator.  Will it really happen?  I suppose that you can say one of the issues is the statement made by myself and others that a valid test will in fact not take place in 4 1/2 weeks and the GDS guy is just playing some people to keep the storyline going and keep the PayPal system primed.

Mute silence by the supporters of some propositions to valid critiques - it's a big issue that goes way beyond GDS.

[TinselKoala]

There is another issue that has already raised its head, and that is the accusation that somehow, critical comments on an obscure hobbyist's forum will somehow have the effect of preventing the testing of the claims when the time rolls around.  Don't be negative, because it might scare the claimant or drive him away out of spite. I've pretty much stopped making comments about this particular item because I don't want to "enable" this kind of excuse when the promised date comes along and goes along without the testing actually happening. If it turns out that way, that is. If you recall the Chuck Pierce script you can see that that is just how it went down for Sterling.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/News:QMoGen

With all those "working" devices already being demonstrated, but none of them actually ever validated, what is a poor old Koala to think?