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GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

Started by ramset, October 25, 2014, 09:24:26 PM

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profitis

@mark E that's the problem nothing was observed so no conclusion can be drawn.the mouse was chased straight back into the hole by these crusaders lynchmob here.does anyone even know if the alibaba ad is still up

MarkE

Quote from: profitis on October 29, 2014, 02:06:48 PM
@mark E that's the problem nothing was observed so no conclusion can be drawn.the mouse was chased straight back into the hole by these crusaders lynchmob here.does anyone even know if the alibaba ad is still up
GDS/Potter made their false claims just like so many free energy scam artists before them.  Scam artists like these never deliver because their claims are false, not because people start asking questions. 

profitis

Its too late @mark E.there's no way to be certain now.the product has vapourized from alibaba

eletrik

Without full and complete disclosure, all claims must be taken with a grain of salt.  Just as a reminder to shake up the hypnotized:

Joe Newman.
Nathren Armour.
Don Smith.
Stan Meyer.
Bob Boyce.
Howard Johnson.
Daniel Dingel.
Mikhail Dmitriyev.
Dennis Lee.

Will Mr. Potter be the next name on this list????

The list can go on and on, but these are some names that I have had some personal experience with in one form or another.  It's a controversial list, and there are many who still VEHEMENTLY defend these guys - and they have every technical reason and fact memorized and ready to load into their propaganda guns.  For this reason, the door is still wide open for scammers and crooks.  The hope and belief is still alive and well.

These are names of individuals who have made claims about overunity devices that were never completely verified and/or which failed to develop into a marketable device despite significant funds being invested and research being done both publicly and privately.  I have personally met a few of the people on this list (which is short and incomplete) - some by phone, some in the flesh - and a couple of them I would even call friends.  So let me say this - if an inventor can get carried away and caught up in their own claims, how much more so can we?  Not all claims are made with intentional false pretenses, but some claims are misrepresented, mistakenly justified, or simply not true for reasons the claimant is not aware of.  Some of these guys truly believe their claims are accurate, but third party investigation often uncovers honest or unintentional mistakes.  Some of these guys have made claims that I still struggle with rejecting - most notably Stan's.  After all these years, I'm still spending money trying to replicate his work in the hopes that there is something to it.  My advice, keep your money in your wallet for the most part, and only spend it when its extra and it wont effect you and your family.

Potter is asking a ton of money for his product.  It's not like each unit is 100 bucks.  For most of us, multiple thousands is a really huge investment.  If it works, its the bargain of the millennium.  If is a rouge - its a steal of a lifetime for him.  So just hang out for a few months.  If the projected delivery date keeps getting pushed out - you know its just a pumped up scam.  Time will reveal which are solid irrefutable claims and which are false.  I will say this though - nothing in that box represents a technology which produces more energy that is required to operate it.  I would say that stringing together a bunch of NON overunity devices in a box and claiming it makes more energy than it takes to run it is pretty impossible.  One needs some kind of technology that taps into the ether - the ambient environment - the Zero Point reference background.  Like say some kind of coil, collapsing magnetic field, or electron extraction device.  At least Don Smith made a valiant attempt at it when he strung together some caps, a lightning arrestor, a cool adjustable coil and a neon light transformer.  Look at one of those transformer rating labels, do the math, and you will be rather shocked (no pun intended).  At least Don used a device that on paper "makes" more power than it uses (read the labels).  So a bunch of conventional pumps and motors running off non exotic EM fields and moving water just wont cut it.  It's been tried and done before and not once has it succeeded.  I fear it will be the same result this time too.  So sit back and wait to see where this goes.  We will all know soon enough.

MarkE

Quote from: profitis on October 29, 2014, 02:21:20 PM
Its too late @mark E.there's no way to be certain now.the product has vapourized from alibaba
There was never anything to be uncertain about profitis.  Yet another bozo on the internet claimed a magic machine powered by water.  Water is not fuel.  These claims are false just like all the prior water as fuel gizmo claims have been false.  End of story.

Potter / GDS claims that he has 10 units now.  He claims that he will have production volumes in six weeks.  What he won't have is any machine that does what he claims.