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GDS 3 KW generator runs on water

Started by ramset, October 25, 2014, 09:24:26 PM

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Cap-Z-ro

Looks as tho he's on the bottle again folks...hung over...or he may have mistakenly glanced in a mirror took a dislike to the sloppy drunk he thought was looking in his window.

Regards...


MarkE

Quote from: ramset on December 02, 2014, 09:27:14 PM
Geeesh
I'm such a sucker


Why on earth would you think for an instant that water could not be a fuel??
you keep saying that...
The energy locked in water could knock hell off its hinges..


On this point I could not disagree more.


But I gotta go
Respectfully
Chet
Chet all you need to do is show an example of someone extracting this incredible stored energy from water.  If you are referring to ZPE there is no known way to get at ZPE.  A little Pelton wheel turbine sure won't unlock it.

TinselKoala

Water is not a fuel, because it is the _ash_ of burning fuel, that is, burning hydrogen. Water is a _low energy state_ of the combined H and O atoms; it takes energy to split the water molecule to yield hydrogen and oxygen gases. If you had a perfect, no-loss-whatsoever system (the magic factor) you could get nearly as much energy back by burning the gases as you put in to split the water in the first place. But there are no perfect, zero loss electrolysis systems or hydrogen or ho-ho-ho burning engines.
Take some white ashes from your fireplace. Get some more energy out of that, why don't you? Nobody would even try, they know it's a waste of time.

Injection of water into the combustion chambers of internal combustion engines, either by direct manifold or cylinder injection or by mixing it with fuel in an emulsion, can have benefits such as increased fuel economy, smoother burning in high-compression supercharged engines, even increased power in such engines that operate at manifold pressures greater than ambient. None of these effects are due to "burning water" though, in fact just the opposite. The water retards explosive combustion (knocking) and promotes even fuel burn. If there is too much water, though, you may have more power than without the water, but your TBO (time between overhauls) will go way down. If you are, say, using your big turbosupercharged radial engine operating at 40 inches of MAP to deliver bombs or food to troops, who cares about TBO, nobody does, that's what mechanics are for. If you are trying to make a consumer-grade economy vehicle, your manipulations had better not cut the lifetime of the engine in half, or your extra power just isn't worth it.

MarkE

Water is definitely not a chemical fuel.

Water could be used as feed stock for fusion of the hydrogen it contains.  But a Pelton wheel is hardly an inertial confinement mechanism.

If ZPE were accessible then there is lots of ZPE "locked up" inside even a small mass of water.  But ZPE is frustratingly an inaccessible energy reservoir. 

So, Chet may note that there is lots of energy "locked up" in even small amounts of water, but it is there to stay.

ramset

You guys still up??
there to stay ??
I say Nay....


water as fuel is well on its way.
actually might find out today??


.
here, talk to the Bug in the sea ,he snaps his claw and causes 9000C
and knocks a photon outta orbit ,causing that wonderful prefusion moment, called Biological Sonoluminescence.
oh we have sooo much to do [and learn] on this beautiful planet.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XC6I8iPiHT8


I think Mr,Potter would only need one well trained Bug in that water tank to make all that power??
"the karate Clam""[or shrimp....



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