The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[Just..Sayin..]

Those of us who want to live off the grid only require a small generator to run continuously and charge a battery bank. Two or three hundred watts would be sufficient, we do not need to convert one of these 10kw generators to achieve that. A one to three hp induction motor should do the trick for a few hundred watts....

Suggestions please from you stator experts as to what we need to work with...

Edit... Thanks for the input Chris..... I do have a small dc motor I believe it is 1/7 hp.... Also what is the brand of generator you are using, most of those use the gas engine to support the shaft at one end? Or is that the type you will work with?

[gotoluc]

Hi everyone,

I was wondering what the Wave Form of one of these devices may look like.
So I put together a simple test device using a shaded motor coil with two N - S ceramic magnets between it and placed a thin board over it so I can manually slide different cores over it to observe the wave forms and see if there's anything unusual we can see.

I find the waveform to be different then the standard and would like the opinion of others as to why you would think this would make a difference in a generator.

I also noticed the wave form is quite different depending on how wide the core I manually move over magnets and coil.

First picture is the coil and magnet test setup and cores to be used. Second picture is with the thin board over the test setup with a core ready to be moved by hand.
The below scope shots are the results of U-core, then thin core, then wide core.

Please share your thoughts

Luc

[FatBird]

You mentioned Shaded Pole Motor, but I don't see the motor in your pictures.
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[gotoluc]

You mentioned Shaded Pole Motor, but I don't see the motor in your pictures.
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That's because I took it apart and only using the Coil and center core. They are quite an easy source for a quick coil and laminated core.

Luc

[Dog-One]

Here is an article about what may be the original genset that Syair replicated. It is not copy and paste format so I can not translate it, can anyone else translate any important info that may be in the article... it may also help nail down the location and dig up further info...

http://penapersada.blogspot.ca/2013/06/warga-binaan-rakit-genset-tanpa-bbm.html

Managed to extract this:


The inmates in prisons muaradua successfully assemble the generator without fuel

Although life are behind bars, not hinder occupants Branch Prison Muaradua to be creative. Even the creation of inmates deserve appreciation society.
One of the creations in the field of technology which successfully created the Muaradua Prison inmates make Electricity Without Fuel engine. These creations exhibited direct Tuesday (25/6) in the detention center yesterday in a ceremony Muaradua land grants, as well as the inauguration of boarding Rutan and the inauguration of a business unit of steam motorcycles and cars belonging to citizens of proxies Rutan done.
Head of Branch Muaradua Rutan, Jumadi SH MH said, if indeed it has been continuously working to provide guidance and pembekaan ability for inmates. It is expected that after the exit of the detention center, they already have the skills to be developed in society and the economy sustain life.
"Development of skills is done to prisoners. Making electricity without burning itself is one obvious example, although we are still modeled through youtube, "beber Jumadi.
Development of electric technology without fuel added, inspired by frequent outages of electricity in the prison environment or Muaradua. So that inmates trying to create make electricity without fuel.
How electricity works without fuel he explained, the power cable to the electric motor is connected to the flow of PLN or ACCU, after the electric motor is turned on it will drive the electrical generator and produce electrical current AC and DC with a capacity of 3000 watts with a voltage of 300 volts.
"Electricity is able to illuminate the house with the number 15 Samai lights 20 light point. Just turn on only when needed flow of electricity, as the generator of life it is not necessary anymore, "he explained.
Advantages of electricity without fuel technology itself he said, do not cause air pollution as well as environmentally friendly and fuel efficient.
"We hope this technology can be developed successfully created, and make PLN as foster father," he hoped.
Meanwhile, the manager of PT PLN Rayon Muaradua, Iliyas deeply mengapreasi technology invented Rtan Muaradua prisoners. According Iliyas there are several components that need to be refined further assessed for more leverage. He also admitted that the team fielded PLN ready to help you enhance the technological creations.
"When asked by Rutan Muaradua, we of PLN will be ready to help by lowering a team of experts in helping inmates complete their work so that they can be marketed whole communities," he said while claiming to salute the creativity of inmates.
Regarding the cost of manufacture of the equipment, Iliyas menilas amount spent quite large. Given the high price of the dynamo is used. "High cost given, for dynamo," he added.
Separately, Vice Regent OKU south Dr. Hj Herath Billy SPM looking straight power tool without fuel also praised the creation. "It should be developed and refined. Hopefully in the future could be marketed and sold to the public at large, "he said