The new generator no effect counter B. EMF part 2 ( Selfrunning )

[Dave45]

I showed this to a trusted friend, he said something is not right.
When the coils are shorted voltage should drop.
He's right amperage should go through the roof and voltage should drop.
Im not saying its fake but before you invest too much maybe a small scale model should be tested.

dave

[ChrisW]

Brilliant, Lumen!


I kept going over it in my head, then watched the Part 2 video several more times starting with the teardown of the generator. In German, Ecklin-Brown, Kromery, et. al., the magnetic field is being "toggled" (strengthened or weakened) by the presence or absence of iron. I kept looking for slots in his steel tube and as far as I can tell, they're just not there! So... the mechanics of this beast are apparently NOT the same as in the German patent.


What DOES appear in the video is a SOLID tube with four perpendicular coils inside. 1) I'm not seeing how that conveys enough of a magnetic field on the generator coils to have any kind of "profound" effect, and 2) why that arrangement would cause the kind of cogging we're seeing in the video as he spins the pulley by hand.


Hmm. Clearly there's something we've all missed.....
Chris

[T-1000]

Yes, that pretty much sums it up, no need to wait, just build.

http://www.overunity.com/15088/new-generator-no-effect-lenzlaw-give-more-detail-in-pcture/

[picowatt]

It is good to see some one else spotted the scam.
Flux gate alternators put out very little power , and still have the same lenz force effect as any other alternator per watt output. The gate plates carry the magnetic field, and the lenz force acts apon the plates as if they were the magnets them self .I see some great minds on this thread falling for this rubbish.

Tinman,

Yes indeed, the videos are highly suspect.  Regarding the first video, the output driven relay idea sounds about right.

Ever use a wind up flashlight?  Upon listening to the first video, I was immediately reminded of the sound of straight cut gears being used to greatly multiply a shaft speed.  Also, when he stops turning the pulley, there is a cogging effect seen on the rim of the pulley as the" innards" of the machine apparently stop rotating.  Either there is a ratchet clutch, or just gears over riding each other, but something inside appears to stop rotating after the pulley stops and there is also a sound associated with that action.

When we are shown the voltage on the meter, the voltage swings up and down as he rotates the pulley.  Oddly, when the loads are attached and operating, no hint of a voltage fluctuation is observed, just full off or full on, never anywhere in between.

As well, we are to believe that when he shows the current using the clamp meters that there are supposed to be 2400 watts or so flowing through flimsy connections.  One might rightfully expect a bit of heat or smoke.

The drawings he has shown do not at all seem to be in accord with the mechanical action or sounds observed when he rotates the pulley by hand (i.e., the cogging or stuttering of the pulley when he stops spinning it and the associated sounds). 

So, where do the 162 magnets go?

PW

[lumen]

At this point I want to make it clear that many here may have missed the fact that the drawings and animations shown with the 4 poles are only the concept of the generator shown in the videos.

The generator shown in both videos has a totally different number of poles and magnets. It was said to have 40 poles and takes 162 magnets(need to go back for exact number)

For this reason it requires only 100 RPM for 50 or 60 HZ output. This also means that if it's working as claimed, it may in fact be using a different principal than the 4 pole drawings even if it appears to be using the same.

syairchairun says he is trying to get the OK to post the details of the actual generator used in the videos. Even some good photos of the inside would be helpful, but actual drawings would resolve all problems with replication.