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Pulse motor build off time.

Started by tinman, November 15, 2014, 01:18:57 AM

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synchro1

@TommyLeeReed,

                              Awesome!

TinselKoala

Quote from: synchro1 on November 28, 2014, 05:05:53 PM

@Tinselkoala,

I located one in the UK. 12 volt, costing 12.58 pounds:

http://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/reed-relays/3491774/

All one needs to do to test for self running, is position the magnet core GAP power coil in the neutral zone then bias this "DPDT Reed Relay" closed for output by attaching a tiny magnet to it. The coil needs to be in series with a rectifying diode and storage capacitor. This should speed the rotor up with "Lenz Propulsion", above "Lenz Delay Threshold RPM". You'll believe my neo sphere is self propelled if you get the same effect with the GAP rotor driven by "Lenz Delay" output coils. This DPDT Relay is normally closed on one side, with no neutral position. The charging event will last until the next power pulse triggers automatically. Power runs directly through the relay, with a potentiometer between the relay and battery. Naturally the power cycle is needed to accelerate the rotor to threshold speed. Good luck!
Thanks, but that is not a reed switch, it is a reed _relay_. Do you really not understand the difference? I have dozens of small reed relays, and some of them can at times be used as reed switches. 
Where did you get the idea of biasing a reed _relay_ with an external magnet so that it will work as a switch in a pulse motor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFLBrRfXfJ0

(And feel free to post a video of your self running system, with some continuous measurement of rotor RPM so we can be sure that it isn't slowing down while "running" itself with no external power. I'll believe your neo sphere is selfpropelled when you can show that it doesn't slow down, over a reasonable amount of time, say ten minutes, with no external power or stored-up capacitor power.)

John.K1

Just a quick peek to this forum:  :)

Guysl, have you tried to make a resonant circuit made of winding of stator and capacitor? And to use your Opamp as an comparator together with power switch to keep LC tank in resonance and see what happen ;)

There is a document of Ing. Kopecky from 2002 who did some calculations. I was trying to find that document on the internet for you but for some reason the pictures are missing there :) To make a long story short the final words from that pages are:

"...  What does that mean ? If we can increase the frequency of the supply voltage , while maintaining the LC circuit at resonance, the input power remains the same and is equal only to active losses in the winding:  Pp = Rv × I2 , ( 27) , but output power will grow linearly with angular frequency (omega symbol) according to equation  P = dA/dt = F×r×w = M×w  !   (w.. omega symbol)

The document without pictures here: http://www.oil-saving.wz.cz/htm/RezMotorUvod.htm      (it is in Czech, use Google translate ;)  )

synchro1

Quote from: TinselKoala on November 28, 2014, 10:32:58 PM
Thanks, but that is not a reed switch, it is a reed _relay_. Do you really not understand the difference? I have dozens of small reed relays, and some of them can at times be used as reed switches. 
Where did you get the idea of biasing a reed _relay_ with an external magnet so that it will work as a switch in a pulse motor?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFLBrRfXfJ0

(And feel free to post a video of your self running system, with some continuous measurement of rotor RPM so we can be sure that it isn't slowing down while "running" itself with no external power. I'll believe your neo sphere is selfpropelled when you can show that it doesn't slow down, over a reasonable amount of time, say ten minutes, with no external power or stored-up capacitor power.)

What are you trying to be funny again? I uploaded a video of Leon Dragone's "Magnet Pump" and the DPDT relay he used. The GAP rotor's a monopole. Your video is just another worthless piece of crap with a two pole rotor and all the tortured techniques you use to improvise rotor rotation.

The Reed Relay has eight pins. Two of the pins are for mounting and are inert. The GAP motor would have the two neutralization coils in series, leaving two leads which would solder to the center pins. The battery in series with a potentiometer would attach to the normally open pins on one end, and the storage capacitor in series with a fast switching diode would attach to the normally closed set of pins on the other end. The Reed Relay triggers from one pole and that's the pole you want to face out from the monopole rotor. You can easily test the relay for the closed side with a battery and 12 volt light bulb. Also the trigger pole polarity.

The other point is positioning the coils in the neutral zone for "Lenz Propusion". I think simply fastening a small wood block to the back of the core magnets would work. The coils need to be across the neutral zone toward the magnet rotor to propel the rotor in opposition when the coil discharges. After the rotor is over "Lenz Delay Threshold" speed, the coils need to be re-positioned an inch or so back against the wood blocks. Elastic bands would be enough to hold the coils down and allow for sliding. The Reed Relay needs to be frozen in position with a tiny magnet for constant output.

I kept my self propelled spinner running overnight. This GAP Konzen motor design has the potential to self run with much less hazard and greater output. The one inch sphere only ouputs a few hundred milliwatts.

TinselKoala

Insult me and my work all you like, you are just another blowhard false claimant with no credibility who cannot provide any evidence for your claims. Kept it running overnight, without any outside or stored power, and no slowing down of the rotation? PROVE IT. You will not and cannot. Meanwhile, we already know how you misrepresent and make false claims about the work of other people, so why should anyone believe your present distortions?
And I am still waiting for you to show me a DPDT reed SWITCH, that does not have a coil wrapped around it and encapsulated as a reed relay. It will have six terminals. I'm not saying they don't exist, just that I can't find one anywhere I've looked, and I doubt if you can either. PROVE ME WRONG, if you can. Or just go ahead and keep on making false claims and insulting me instead of providing support for what you say, I don't really care. There are many awards and prizes that you could easily win if you were telling the truth.... so why haven't you applied for them? I know why, and so does everybody else reading this thread.