Vaccinations; recent developments

[Pirate88179]

Make sure you have the True facts...

You know...I really have to question your sources.  Do you really find this site credible?  I thought you were looking for the truth?

Bill

[sarkeizen]

Yes you did by implying it. I'm not anti-vaccinations.

Implication requires intent.  You have no objective reason to believe that I intended to implicate you.  Hence "imply" is the wrong word.

I'm sure it has to do based on own personal beliefs back up with facts that they lost a closed person due to vaccination.

What you are "sure"of" is irrelevant.  What matters is if the article is correct.  It has provided virtually nothing useful on that front.

why do you feel the need to speak for myself!?

I'm characterizing you not speaking for you.

I just want to find truth.

Probably not.  Again you seem far, far, far, far, far more like you are just trying to justify your existing ignorant beliefs. 

Millions of people get the flu yearly.

We are comparing the flu and measles. The flu propagates at about 1.6 cases per case in the winter and 1.2 (which is just barely self-sustaining) cases per case in the summer.  Measles propagates at about 18 cases per case all year round.  So it's easy to see how measles will outpace the flu.  The death rate of measles is about 5 times that of the flu.  So it's easy to see

Are you scared that from the measles spreading all of a sudden humanity will go extinct?

No I don't want people - especially infants, toddlers and the IC who don't have a choice in getting vaccinated to die completely unnecessarily.   You do apparently?

I know for a FACT 100% sure 100% guaranteed

Again this is why you will always be unable to do what I do.

Personally i'm more scared of dying from cancers than a measles virus.

What you are scared of and what is a reasonable course of action is not the same thing.

Never heard of a person dying from measles, have you?

Yep.

Today, I'm pretty sure the immune body itself already learned it HENCE = no need to worry about the virus.

Which is of course wrong.  Which is why cases are increasing at an inverse rate to vaccination.   Why countries with high vaccination rates have very few cases and countries who lag behind like Paupa New Guinea have high rates (5,000/year) and even in those countries there's an inversely proportional rate of infection with PNG having 18,000 cases prior to reasonable levels of vaccination.

This is what you say when I asked you to disect that article and do a complete study on how it is 100% wrong. :

Because I'd like to see if you can differentiate between strong and weak evidence.   Which you can't. 

Please read the article and point out what is 100% wrong!

So your article contains no strong evidence?  Then why should I bother? If it does, please point it out.  That really isn't so hard now is it? But you will probably refuse which shows me that either you have no idea what amounts to good evidence and/or you haven't read the article.   

19x19 (18x18) check board game. ok.

Then do what was asked in the original challenge.  Go create a kiseido account.  Post the name here.  I'll do the same.  Then come up with some dates/times when you are free to play and I'll pick one.  Then we can play.

I don't find your stupidity that complicated at all.

The difference between me calling you stupid and you calling me stupid.  Is that it's easy to point out clear places where you are stupid ("viruses eat other viruses") ("viruses have immune systems") ("viruses have wills and purposes and schemes and plans"). 

Everything relates to one another and you can't see the truth on that OH MY.

Yawn.  See when someone says "everything is connected" it's sort of like "pretend knowledge".  It's the kind of thing pseudo-philosophers say.  It's really just a game of redefining the term "connected".

I'M so stupid and you are smarter than me.

Yes.   If you think that "everything is connected" is useful information.

[sarkeizen]

Thought you'd never ask Sar-Ke.

Well you've been pushing that button for a few posts now.

Try it yourself and you'll see.  Painless.  Very inexpensive.

No thanks.  Only mindless drones try every thing someone says works.  What's the point in having a mind if you treat all hypotheses as equally likely.

[SeaMonkey]

You know...I really have to question your sources.  Do you really find this site credible?  I thought you were looking for the truth?

It would be very convenient if Truth was available to
all seekers at just one web site.  Unfortunately, it isn't
and quite a bit of digging is essential to locate the full
extent of Truth.

One article at one site is almost never the complete story
on any issue, but the article may inspire additional searching
through other links to add to the completeness of the quest.

Luckily for those of us who have access to the internet the
search for Truth is far easier today than ever before.  It goes
without saying that Discernment is always a necessity to
sift through information as dis-info is identified and weeded
out.

[Pirate88179]

But, if you go to a website titled: "Why the NWO is killing us with vaccines.com"  Do you really think you get the truth?  Or some slanted posts by folks with an agenda of their own?

I never trusted the main stream media and now with Brian Williams caught in more than a few lies, this point is driven home that they have an agenda.  Dan Rather was finally caught too a few years back.  So, if you cited ABC or NBC, etc.  I would not find those sources credible either.

I am just asking.

Bill