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Vaccinations; recent developments

Started by SeaMonkey, December 01, 2014, 02:12:40 PM

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Pirate88179

Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 15, 2014, 11:26:57 PM


Getting in a pissing match with an ass kisser is an endless undertaking...I showed the ass kisser ol Cap wasn't as stupid as he hoped.

And he still doesn't realize his troll's ass has bailed.

Regards...

Still showing your ass fixation I see.  No one here is surprised.

Oh, I was the Design Engineer on those and many other projects, not the janitor.  I can see if that is what you do for a living you would make that assumption.  No shame in being a janitor, you should be proud of it.

Bill

See the Joule thief Circuit Diagrams, etc. topic here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=6942.0;topicseen

Cap-Z-ro


Whats he still doing here the troll who's ass he was kissing has vamoosed ?

Hope he doesn't think mine is kissable at some point.

Regards...

*Cap ponders ways to avoid using word ass when confronted with ass kisser*


Cap-Z-ro

Another new 'vaccine scam' whistleblower has now come forward.

This time its the lead developer.


" Dr. Harper also authored many of the published, scholarly papers about the vaccines.  She is now the latest in a long string of experts who are pressing the red alert button on the devastating consequences and irrelevancy of these vaccines.  Dr. Harper made her surprising confession at the 4th International Converence on Vaccination which took place in Reston, Virginia.  "

http://universalmindradio.com/2014/12/13/lead-developer-of-hpv-vaccines-comes-clean-warns-parents-young-girls-its-all-a-giant-deadly-scam/


Regards...


allcanadian

@Cap
Quote

At the time of writing, 44 girls are officially known to have died from
these vaccines.  The reported side effects include Guillian Barré Syndrome
(paralysis lasting for years, or permanently — sometimes eventually causing
suffocation), lupus, seizures, blood clots, and brain inflammation.  Parents are
usually not made aware of these risks.  Dr. Harper, the vaccine developer,
claimed that she was speaking out, so that she might finally be able to sleep at
night.
Quote"The benefit to public health is nothing, there is no reduction in cervical cancers, they are just postponed, unless the
protection lasts for at least 15 years, and over 70% of all sexually active
females of all ages are vaccinated." 
That was a great link even though I found the article in itself very disturbing. Personally I cannot reconcile how a parent could act so irresponsibly while claiming to care for their child. I think we are going to see more and more professionals coming forward as they see their peers being open and honest about what is really happening behind the well orchestrated PR campaigns by the corporations. Greed is the primary motivator here and that is one thing I'm sure everyone can understand, I think these corporation leaders need to put in jail to set an example for the rest.

AC
Knowledge without Use and Expression is a vain thing, bringing no good to its possessor, or to the race.

sarkeizen

Your post is at least close to what you were talking about so I'll respond until you won't answer questions.
Quote from: Cap-Z-ro on December 16, 2014, 09:51:31 AM
Another new 'vaccine scam' whistleblower has now come forward.
Nope.  This article is primarily copypasta from material as early as 2009.  Sheep like you don't care and don't investigate.
QuoteThis time its the lead developer.
Nope.  Diane Harper was not the "lead developer" there is probably no such person in a research team.  Nor is she a leading expert.  She was a site investigator one of many.  Strike #2.
Quote"Dr. Harper made her surprising confession at the 4th International Converence on Vaccination which took place in Reston, Virginia."
...in 2009.

However if you think so much of her opinion you might consider this quote she made shortly after one of the earlier articles:
Quote from: Diane Harper
I did not say that Cervarix was as deadly as cervical cancer. I did not say that Cervarix could be riskier or more deadly than cervical cancer. I did not say that Cervarix was controversial, I stated that Cervarix is not a 'controversial drug'. I did not 'hit out' – I was contacted by the press for facts. And this was not an exclusive interview."
This was even quoted in a linked article (although it was framed as if she was being attacked but there is no evidence of this alleged attack). Also 
Quote from: Ben Goldacer who talked to Diane after that article was published
Professor Harper has complained to the PCC. "I fully support the HPV vaccines," she says. "I believe that in general they are safe in most women. I told the Express all of this.

I don't know Dr. Harper but I've now listened to excerpts from the conference and from other anti-vaccine propaganda.  Her concern appears to be twofold one being that cervical carcinomas are slow developing and that only 5% of infected women have invasive carcinomas.  The problem with her reasoning is by the time you reach that detection level your 5 year survival is at best around 1 in 2.   So 2% of HPV infected women will die needlessly.   According to the article she has a concern about the length of time the vaccine remains active but I haven't been able to find a place where her quote isn't broken up into tiny pieces.    The idea that a vaccine would last for 15 years is far from impossible in a similar way that aquired immunity does.  If the data starts to show a drop in seroposivity you can easily add a booster to the cycle.

I think this is about the time you pick some other nugget from the article and pretend that your argument was all about that. :)  Perhaps you want to start with the VAERS bit - which as far as I can see she didn't actually say.  Since now that we're straight on efficacy you probably want to pretend you know something about harm.