Vaccinations; recent developments

[Cap-Z-ro]

Just keep on being a moron SM.  It makes me happy.

Who/what else but a troll would make such a statement.

Case proven

Regards...

[joel321]

No but for example ionizing radiation can knock out a gene (such as MDM2) which reduces the amount of a protein (such as p53) in cells which has at least three responses to DNA damage.  Any of which could stop the damaged DNA from reproducing.

I asked you to describe how some cancers are made and you give me this? At any rate, if I gather what you are trying to imply, you seem to be talking about a cure I guess.

But the main question was describe the PROBABILITIES of what causes cancers since we are always talking about probabilities.

You need to ask a more specific question.  Do you not understand the terms "tissue", "blood" or how blood is transported through tissue.

I know tissue, I know blood, I know veins in the body like veins in a tree leaf! But I do not know further in the realm of this. I'm sure if I took my time I would learn it.

There are two things happening here! You are trying to "understand" the cure while I UNDERSTAND the cause. Two things are happening here. I don't need a PHD to understand the CAUSE! When it comes to INFLUENTIAL, only in the GENTIC being born with is where it is needed!

So when I ask you what you mean "Tissue made up of several different cell types that allows for the transportation of blood." is just a way of me trying to get to the meat of the bone!

First you need to explain how cancers work! Like I would a dishwasher if I want to repair it!

The you have to understand what is the purpose of cancer. Like I would understand the purpose of a dishwasher!

The you have to understand other things e.g. like how the immune system works or how vaccines work.

You need to give a greater explanation of your answers if you believe you know how cancers work!
I don't know how to "repair" cancer, I just know the PROBABILITIES of how it can be caused.

No but since the actual statement was about cancers that don't produce tumors. Leukemia is one, it produces an over-abundance of abnormal white blood cells. 

Yes bone cancers, lung, white blood, red blood, all cancers are an imbalance of the body! I'm asking you me as a non-PHD having understanding how cancers and tumors are PROBABILITIES of human actions and you are supposedly the PHD having that understand how to cure them?

I only asked you to describe the cancers that you are familiar with, nothing else nothing more. And once you describe them, show why you are close to the cure and why you have not found the cure?

Cancer is a broad term for diseases where cells divide more than usual.  Do you disagree?  If not, then what do you think tumors are?

I already mentioned that tumors are an imbalance growth of cells and is similar to cancer. If you have a guy careing a weight over 100 lbs over his shoulders for years, the tissue becomes damage and this over-repairing of the dead tissue causes a lump.  You can even see how the martial art people use this  to get their fist callous to thicken the skin as to give a greater punch!

That simplistic understanding carries over to cancerous cells = obesity, alcoholism, viruses, pimples, bruises! And I only know this by looking at the history of human body alone. If I want to dig deeper and get a PHD on understanding cancers, then i'm just going there to find a cure. Which i'm guessing you are trying to do that but i'm sure you have no magic pill to cure it since you cannot of you are trying to repair the EFFECT while ignoring the CAUSE!

[joel321]

I am afraid that you couldn't even if you tried.  It would take years of studying engineering, machining, (Master Machinist) Flying, Music and the arts for you to ever be able to catch up.  You should have started learning when you were younger.

Well then we would never have "evolution" or when the student surpasses the teacher.

I understand your pride, but your learning will never be STATIC since space time is always ticking! Lol

Is not like you did not learn from others? = "evolution" = CAUSE = AFFECT.

I will never stop learning in my living life and i'm 100% sure you are still learning,,,lol

[Pirate88179]

I asked you to describe how some cancers are made and you give me this? At any rate, if I gather what you are trying to imply, you seem to be talking about a cure I guess.

But the main question was describe the PROBABILITIES of what causes cancers since we are always talking about probabilities.

I know tissue, I know blood, I know veins in the body like veins in a tree leaf! But I do not know further in the realm of this. I'm sure if I took my time I would learn it.

There are two things happening here! You are trying to "understand" the cure while I UNDERSTAND the cause. Two things are happening here. I don't need a PHD to understand the CAUSE! When it comes to INFLUENTIAL, only in the GENTIC being born with is where it is needed!

So when I ask you what you mean "Tissue made up of several different cell types that allows for the transportation of blood." is just a way of me trying to get to the meat of the bone!

First you need to explain how cancers work! Like I would a dishwasher if I want to repair it!

The you have to understand what is the purpose of cancer. Like I would understand the purpose of a dishwasher!

The you have to understand other things e.g. like how the immune system works or how vaccines work.

You need to give a greater explanation of your answers if you believe you know how cancers work!
I don't know how to "repair" cancer, I just know the PROBABILITIES of how it can be caused.

Yes bone cancers, lung, white blood, red blood, all cancers are an imbalance of the body! I'm asking you me as a non-PHD having understanding how cancers and tumors are PROBABILITIES of human actions and you are supposedly the PHD having that understand how to cure them?

I only asked you to describe the cancers that you are familiar with, nothing else nothing more. And once you describe them, show why you are close to the cure and why you have not found the cure?

I already mentioned that tumors are an imbalance growth of cells and is similar to cancer. If you have a guy careing a weight over 100 lbs over his shoulders for years, the tissue becomes damage and this over-repairing of the dead tissue causes a lump.  You can even see how the martial art people use this  to get their fist callous to thicken the skin as to give a greater punch!

That simplistic understanding carries over to cancerous cells = obesity, alcoholism, viruses, pimples, bruises! And I only know this by looking at the history of human body alone. If I want to dig deeper and get a PHD on understanding cancers, then i'm just going there to find a cure. Which i'm guessing you are trying to do that but i'm sure you have no magic pill to cure it since you cannot of you are trying to repair the EFFECT while ignoring the CAUSE!

Life causes cancer than, using your "logic".  Have you ever heard of a dead person developing cancer?  No?  Well, there you have it.  You have to be alive to get it so, life must cause it.

Bill

[sarkeizen]

I asked you to describe how some cancers are made and you give me this?

It is, in fact how some cancers are made.

At any rate, if I gather what you are trying to imply, you seem to be talking about a cure I guess.

No, I'm talking about how some cancers are made.

But the main question was describe the PROBABILITIES of what causes cancers since we are always talking about probabilities.

No, you asked where they come from.  That's not the same as a "risk factor".  If that's what you mean.

I know tissue, I know blood,

Then why don't you understand how inflammation is a response from vascular tissue?

You are trying to "understand" the cure while I UNDERSTAND the cause.

No I'm talking about one potential cause of cancer.  You are just making sentences that mean virtually nothing.

First you need to explain how cancers work!

Such as genes which encode proteins which regulate cell division.

I just know the PROBABILITIES of how it can be caused.

Then what is the probability of the kind of cancer I described: where an MDM2 knockout causes a reduction in  p53 which affects the ability to correct DNA or initiate apoptosis.

Whoops...guess you don't know the probability of that.

Yes bone cancers, lung, white blood, red blood, all cancers are an imbalance of the body!

The problem with your sentence here is it doesn't say anything useful.  Is a reduction p53 a "imbalance"?  In some entirely uninformative way sure.  However it's only because I know three of the functions of p53 that I can say that.

I'm asking you me as a non-PHD having understanding how cancers and tumors are PROBABILITIES of human actions

You are barely speaking English at a elementary school level.   If I take a wild guess, I would assume you're talking about risk factors.  So in the case of a MDM2 knockout - the risk factor is exposure to ionizing radiation. 

I only asked you to describe the cancers that you are familiar with

...and I described the mechanism for one type of cancer I'm familiar with.  That's it.  You are just so incredibly ignorant you didn't understand that.

show why you are close to the cure and why you have not found the cure?

I have not found a cure for cancer, I have never even come close because that is not my job.

I already mentioned that tumors are an imbalance growth of cells and is similar to cancer.

Are you saying that tumors are NOT cancer?  That something is called a cancer because cells are dividing without the usual limits on them?  Is that what you're saying?

You can even see how the martial art people use this  to get their fist callous to thicken the skin as to give a greater punch!

When you injure tissue you can end up with scaring.  Scaring is again not the same as a tumor.  Scar tissue looks different under a microscope than a cancer cell and cancer cells tend to look different under a microscope than normal tissue.  For example the Leukemia blasts are smaller than normal white blood cells.