Vaccinations; recent developments

[sarkeizen]

Fear not;

Awww...it's the "I'm going to avoid answering the question but pretend that I speak from some higher level of experience" troll.  It's cute!

The problem still remains.  The highest quality evidence appears to come from my position and only the lowest from yours (or what I can only guess what your position may be from things you've posted).  You are effectively demanding that people take your views on faith.

[sarkeizen]

I don't even know what your "knowledge" about medicine is but you have to understand that dinosaurs have been living longer then us with out vaccinations?

Again, I don't speak troll very well.  Are you trying to say that a dinosaurs lifespan is longer than a humans or that they existed as a species for longer then we did.

Every vaccinations has a side effect!

Every action has an effect.  Even inaction.  So refusing a vaccination has a side effect of making you more likely to get a disease.

"doctors" do not really know how sub-atomic viruses work.

There are "sub-atomic viruses"?  Who knew?  Do you mean you don't know how they work at a sub-atomic level?  Doubtful but we do know quite a lot about how they work at an atomic level and an enormous amount about how they work at the cellular level.

I don't know if you know this but the flu shot is just a semi-dead flu virus

The word we tend to use is "inactivated" which means dead.  However since antibodies look for the "shape" of the virus (I'm oversimplifying here a bit) it will cause the body to produce antibodies for the live virus.  Enough for someone who comes in contact with the virus to be asymptomatic or sometimes merely have a mild case.  The nasal vaccine is a "attenuated" virus which means that the virus is still live and capable of infection but greatly weakened.  This is similar to the inoculation done for small pox via cow pox.

1- the flu shot is protecting you from the PREDOMINANT flu virus strand ONLY.

Absolutely wrong.  Antibodies are simply not that specific - if you read Sea Monkey's post about the scary shadow government having a flu vaccine which covers 100% of the flu.  While he is an idiot and incorrect there are antibodies which attack more broadly.   Another example is the varicella vaccine which has been shown to provide protection to people with the herpes virus.

2- the flu shot is just injecting you the VIRUS half dead to make it easier on the body to become IMMINUNE to it. Plus the shot has some enhancers for the immune system too...don't know what those enhancers are.

Unless you are taking the nasal vaccine.  You are getting a virus that is all dead.  Vaccines contain adjuviants which make the body make more antibodies than they usually would.

3- people who take the shot can still get sick BECAUSE the flu shot is only "protecting" you from the PREDOMINANT

Yes people can still get sick but not for the reason you stated.  See above.

The "vaccination" for the flu virus is EDUCATION! Since that is how EVOLUTION WORKS....where  EDUCATION is learning. All cells learn! Even your skin cells learn! The skin cells can repair themselves up to a limit and doctors know this. A simple paper cut will heal your skin with no stitches. And 2" cut is harder to heal but it will eventually as soon as it does not get infected. To prevent infection (we have viruses in our bodies 24/7) the faster one closes the door, the less chance of an infection...blah blah blah.

This needs to be translated into English.

The majority are soooo stupid and do not even understand how viruses get spread out! An STD can be transferred via a hand shake or via a toilet too.

Exceptionally unlikely - especially with a handshake.

How have you educated people on limiting transmission?

In our workplace, in subways and trains.  There are all sorts of signs educating people on proper hygiene.  We provide hand-sanitizer in the office. Children from kindergarten up are educated on hand sanitation.  Schools have procedures in place to allow them to isolate and send kids home if they think they are ill.

However you can do this all you want.  The problem isn't greed it's just that viruses are infectious even when you are asymptomatic.  Furthermore outside of wearing protective gear everything you do isn't 100% (protective gear isn't 100% either as we learned with the ebola outbreak) furthermore because your immune system is, through constantly never coming into contact with viruses is now much, much, much more likely to get a disease when you slip up.

Which is why vaccines save many, many, many, many more lives than they ever harm.

And science has no BIAS....lol

People have biases.  Math doesn't.  Sorry. 

I'm 100% sure that I can study and learn what you have studied and surpass you because it's all a matter of learning.

No, it's a matter of being not 100% sure.   Something you don't seem capable of learning.

YOU seem to believe that you are some type of "special" person that I'm wrong and you are always 100% correct

You're only wrong about the things I've mentioned you're wrong about.  For all I know you're right about pumping gas or serving fries or whatever you do from day to day.  The only person who uses the phrase "100% correct" to describe themselves is you.

you keep on calling me a troll

Because that's what you appear to be.  You don't show any capacity to consider yourself incorrect in even the smallest thing.

I'm sure it's in the thousandths

About 53,000 in 2010.  It varies the number of vaccine preventable deaths per year is also in the thousands.

[Dustcloud]

To Sea Monkey,
Regarding the New World [Dis][/Order], yes Bill Ryan is one the worlds leading researchers. His current website is going through an upgrade but you can find a whole lot of interesting stuff here on Project Avalon forum and also  Kerry Cassidy's Project Camelot
Cheers Dustcloud

http://projectavalon.net
http://projectcamelotportal.com

[sarkeizen]

To Sea Monkey,
Regarding the New World [Dis][/Order], yes Bill Ryan is one the worlds leading researchers. His current website is going through an upgrade but you can find a whole lot of interesting stuff here on Project Avalon forum and also  Kerry Cassidy's Project Camelot
Cheers Dustcloud

http://projectavalon.net
http://projectcamelotportal.com

That was awesome.  I especially like the stuff about Raptors walking among us.  It reminds me of reading "The jet propelled couch" where a delusional confabulated all these grand interstellar stories to the point that the psychiatrist was almost convinced.

[Dustcloud]

to sarkeizen
You reckon these people are just 'takin' the piss'? Why would they spend half there lives researching it if it hasn't affected them and obviously thousands of others as well. If you just stick your head in the sand the NWO is likely to aim for the but...