Vaccinations; recent developments

[Cap-Z-ro]

He really hates it when people cut right to the chase...which is why he has me on ignore(purportedly).

Regards...

[joel321]

Hospital ventilation systems have filters that are very good but a) this is not the only or even main form of infection depending on the virus.  b) You couldn't wear or force someone to wear those if you wanted to and c) they are not perfect and d) as I mentioned you have to be wearing them and many if not most viruses (ebola being an interesting outlier) are infectious when you are asymptomatic.

No matter what you say 100% facts filters will prevent contaminations. It is not even on AC filters, it's even in the BANDAIDS, nurses RESPIRATORS, putting ill kids in bubbles, even CONDOMS, ohhhh is the OZONE LAYER SOME TYPE OF FILTER? NO, it can't be. etc.

I think your ego is getting the best of you.

If you had to choose from wearing a mask during high risk of getting the flu, would you wear a microbial filter that would protect you from an airborne virus or would you rather throw the mask away and take a flu shot?

I would buy masks to wear to protect myself from IGNORANT flu virus carries than to get a flu shot the same reason I wear a condom when I don't want babies or an STD. Education is way better then vaccines in real life...as an example., people who drive fast cars like a Ferrari insurance is through the roof. Because it's a greater risk to crash and kill someone that someone driving a geo metro. And the vaccine for the pleasure of owning one of those fast cars also has protection built in it too...the car is a jigsaw, what I mean in a high MPH crash, the car is built to break in to little pieces ACTION REACTION, the engine that is heaviest will break apart from the drivers section. In a case where the criver crashes, the motor is the heaviest so it will add to the safeness to the driver since the engine will land farther than the driver if it breaks apart.

The same is in the flu virus. Face filter has a greater GUARANTEE protection from a flu virus (or other viruses) than a flu shot. Think about that one. And it's not hard to understand if you look at a lot of angles.

Again, would you take the flu shot over wearing a mask with filters?  Even if just be wearing plain t-shirt cloth filter, since the spray will stick to the cloth cotton strands, is way better than none at all. INFACT, that is how the nose hairs work, eye lashes, ear wax!!! Nose hairs are filters to the body same as boogers. yaray yara yara

You said a vaccine ONLY PROTECTS AGAINST EXACTLY ONE STRAND and that is incorrect.

OK mr-know-it-all tell me, how many vaccines for the flu virus are made each year and for how many flu virus starnds? Then tell me on average how many flu virus strands are born each year in the USA, ASIA, CANADA, AFRICA, EUROPE?

Viruses do not get more dangerous because they mutate.  In fact some become less dangerous when they mutate.

I understand that but human NATURE is not about becoming less weak. How far would a cheetah run if it had an extra leg? Then they become FOOD. Lol i'm sure viruses eat other mutated weak strands.

Viruses don't have an immune system.

Can show show proof?

That's not what you were saying in text I was responding to.  You said people get sick because it only protects against the predominate strain and it doesn't.  a) Most vaccines are trivalent which means they carry three serotypes and b) one of the factors in choosing a serotype is going to be the breadth of the protection. 

lol, I said a lot of things and some times I speak in a philosophical way. But I know I have already mentioned this one way or another and I can even repeat it in another way.

Explain to me how the flu virus is born?

Then explain to me how a "doctor" (or whom ever makes vaccines) comes up with a vaccine?

And how he/she predicted which strand will me more PREDOMINANT in the next year?

Then give me statistics of how many people have been saved from the flu virus sine the year 2000 vs how many have die due to the mosquito insect? For example!

Give me statistics!

None.  I'm just an average person.

lol, ohhh ok. Then what makes you believe 100% sure that you understand vaccines 100% if you have no education regarding vaccinations nor even how to fix an HVAC system.

I don't mean to brag but I can fix an HVAC system easy! And a lot of other things. That's why I know that they are all related together.

I think maybe you need to think deeper to understand about GREED. I even asked you to tell me the history of money and you never responded. I have a .pdf regarding the history of money how it started from exchanging goods for goods. yara yara yara.

At the end of the day, focusing in one area is not that hard since we are social animals.

[sarkeizen]

No matter what you say 100% facts

Hey you're the "100% troll" again!

filters will prevent contaminations

Some but not all.  The degree of effectiveness depends on a large number of variables including how carefully people take them on and off (as we learned in the ebola outbreak). 

I think your ego is getting the best of you.

I can barely understand your deliberately broken English.  What's there to have an ego about?

If you had to choose from wearing a mask during high risk of getting the flu, would you wear a microbial filter that would protect you from an airborne virus or would you rather throw the mask away and take a flu shot?

Depends.  In most cases the mask wouldn't offer better or even improved protection.  For example during H1N1 I had to live with someone who was infected and shedding viruses everywhere.  The mask would have been almost 100% useless because the person was walking around the house, touching just about everything I touch.  I'm on the priority list for vaccination against infectious diseases so I had already been vaccinated.

the same reason I wear a condom when I don't want babies

Trust me, nobody wants you to have babies.

Education is way better then vaccines in real life

Quite the opposite, during the ebola outbreak we found that even when educated and equipped with far stronger measures than you are proposing and faced with not just getting sick but dying.  People still got infected.  So the evidence says you're stupid.

Face filter has a greater GUARANTEE protection from a flu virus (or other viruses)

Not in practice and probably not in theory but since you won't tell me what you're using as a filter I can't give you exact numbers.

And it's not hard to understand if you look at a lot of angles.

Does "look at a lot of angles" just mean "Joel failed math?"  Seems like it.

Even if just be wearing plain t-shirt cloth filter, since the spray will stick to the cloth cotton strands, is way better than none at all.

A cloth t-shirt is probably more than 90% permeable by the virus making it even worse than this years flu vaccine.  Congratulations you're an idiot.

INFACT, that is how the nose hairs work, eye lashes, ear wax!!! Nose hairs are filters

...and having all those things people still get infections.

OK mr-know-it-all tell me, how many vaccines for the flu virus are made each year

No idea what you're asking here.

and for how many flu virus starnds?

Do you mean serotype?

Then tell me on average how many flu virus strands

Please use a word that means something. 

i'm sure viruses eat other mutated weak strands.

You think viruses eat?

Can show show proof?

Well ask yourself the question "What is an immune system?" and you might figure that out.

lol, I said a lot of things and some times I speak in a philosophical way

The word is "ignorant".  You speak in a "ignorant way".

Explain to me how the flu virus is born?

I need this translated from deliberately broken troll to English.

And how he/she predicted which strand will me more PREDOMINANT in the next year?

Again I need a word that isn't "strand" since that doesn't mean anything in medicine.    No studies will tell me about a "strand" because we don't use that word.

Then give me statistics of how many people have been saved from the flu virus sine the year 2000 vs how many have die due to the mosquito insect? For example!

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I need this in English.  Sorry.  I have no idea what you mean by "die due to mosquito insect".

Then what makes you believe 100% sure that you understand vaccines 100%

I've never said that I understand vaccines 100%.  I've just pointed out where you are wrong about things.   Even someone who did as poorly in math as you did.  Should be able to understand that I can correct someone even if I don't understand something 100%.

if you have no education regarding vaccinations

I didn't say that either.

I even asked you to tell me the history of money and you never responded.

I did.  I responded by saying I wouldn't be answering those questions.  See how bad your fake-broken English is?

[Cap-Z-ro]

Hey you're the "100% troll" again!

Insults from a 3 cent shill.

Priceless !

Regards...

[SeaMonkey]

Aerosolized vaccines for thought control

The tyrants in power fear the people.