Vaccinations; recent developments

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[SeaMonkey]

CDC stoops to propagating disinformation and lies.

Who can be trusted?

The Love of Money is the root of all evil.

[sarkeizen]

Do you make the "cure" before the illness happens?

"filters" and by that I mean anti-infectious protective gear (See what I did there! I provided a definition to make it clear what I was talking about.  Generally do not work as well as someone who is immune.  Since you posed the question of X is better than Y - you are presupposing that Y exists.  If you are saying that X is better than Y when Y doesn't exist then it's a) not the situation we are talking about and b) trivial in a stupid way.

You are sounding like a racists person TO BE HONEST!

I have no idea what race you are.  I just know that a number of your sentences don't make any sense. When they make sense I will respond as best as I can.    See, I just did.

100% sure the flu virus spreads via the sick coughing

It does to a point.  It also spreads via direct and indirect surface contact. 

I tell you the sick person should cough to the ground and you are arguing about that simple fact?

No, I was just laughing at how difficult and awkward your phrasing was.  However while we are on the subject there have been studies about various viruses and how long an area is potentially infectious after someone has coughed there.  Which
see viruses are really small and light so they are affected by smaller forces than you would expect.  So there is at least some reason to doubt that "coughing toward the ground" would have a significant effect.

you are so EGOTISTICAL

No egotism is the idea that an idea is right because it is mine.  I believe that my ideas are right because I've read a lot about medical journal articles on the subject of viruses.  On the other hand, someone like you who DEMANDS THAT THEY MUST BE HEARD BECAUSE THEIR OWN OPINIONS ARE 100% RIGHT - that kind of person is closer to the definition of egotistical.

probably hav ever seen a virus under an electron microscope how they eat other viruses.

Can you show me a picture of a virus eating?  That I would like to see.

How stupid can you be

Again isn't this evidence that you're egotistical? You're saying that because I disagree with you I have to be stupid. :-)  To the extent I disagree with you is based on research I've read.  Sorry that you haven't read anything.

I don't even know why i'm wasting my time with you. Maybe I need  in my life to entertain me.

Well I'm definitely talking to you because you're entertaining.

Seriously guy, you don't even know how masks work!

Unnecessary.  There is pretty obvious evidence that protective gear -better than just masks - is not sufficient even when someone would nearly certainly die if they don't use it absolutely correctly.  Again in this case, I was vaccinated and the likelihood of being immune was far higher than a mask alone would have provided.

You are like leaving a cult life! YOU SAY FILTERS DON"T WORK!!!

No I said that in that case a filter would have been virtually useless.  Different thing.  Take a statistics class.

lol, you are a cult toward vaccines!

No I was pointing out how masks and other protective gear are used in hospitals and why because I know this and you apparently don't.  Then you went and had some kind of whine-fest about greed or something.

OMG, your brain is not really that smart.

I never said it was.  You are just wrong about a lot of things. :-)  All I've explained is that you said that filters are used when operating on HIV+ patients.  I said because we are talking about flu (and other) vaccinations vs. some countermeasures that you are terribly bad at describing.  I demonstrated that what is used in the OR for HIV+ is entirely different. :-)

Born = coming out from a vagina!!!

So when ask me "How are viruses born?" you mean "How are viruses coming out from a vagina?"

Not what I would have expected. :-)

I have been saying this already to you for a long time!

Not really.  I said this and you said "Do tell, which viruses?" - which in English implies that you don't believe this.

Well, I don't know what BORN means either.

Well that explains why you can't use it very clearly.

How many flu virus STRAINS go through a t-shirt when a person coughs?

Very likely proportional to the number that the person coughs.  Since when you buy medical filters virus type is correlated by size which in turn is correlated to genome size. Influenza strains all have roughly the same sized genome.

First of all I'm nor ARGUING

Yes you are.  Look it up in a dictionary. :-)

Second, even when vaccinated 60-60% you will still get sick

Nope.  Also perhaps you should stop faking poor English.

since there is no 100% guaranteed

There is no 100% countermeasure for viruses.

No matter what you say, a vaccine is only a FILTER filtering out only one virus strain

Nope.  Sorry this is wrong.

the predominant one and not the rest!

Already proved wrong. 

Is not the human SKIN not a FILTER of protection?

Not in a sense useful to the discussion about wearing masks vs. vaccination. :-)

and which flu virus gets the vaccine?

The implication here is that only one and exactly one virus gets a vaccine which is why knowing what a serotype is important but you were too busy being stupid to differentiate. :-)

Show me proof that viruses do not EAT today!

First define what "eat" means.  :-)

Why do you believe that the don't?

Because when English speakers use the term "purpose" it implies *intent*.  Which requires a mind. :-)  Are you saying that viruses think?

Tell me what is an immune system?

So you won't answer.   Awesome! Thanks for just showing me that you were full of shit. :-)

You are not even teaching anything teacher.

Says the person with their fingers in their ears.

I can bet you 2000 dollars I can fix more things than you can and even prove it here with facts!

Who gets to define what "things" are me or you? :-)

You are the cocky person!

Says the person who constantly says they know something to be 100% true and calls people who disagree because they read a study in a medical journal stupid.  I'm pretty sure you're the arrogant one but you...you can only be 100% sure it's me. LOL!

Believing that your "understanding" about vaccines is LIFE. Vaccinate your automobile with a shot to make it run since gas engines are what takes ur dumb azz to work. and a virus gives the engine a virus when the check engine lights up! yawn!

No idea what that means in English.

[sarkeizen]

CDC stoops to propagating disinformation and lies.

Who can be trusted?

Definitely not natural news. LOL.

The Love of Money is the root of all evil.

Ever notice how empty and vapid your posts are?  How they point to empty and vapid websites?  I like to think that people are judged on every empty word they speak.

Also in your military trained troll opinion.  Do you think FatBird is going too far with the large inflammatory graphics or is bigger always better.