Vaccinations; recent developments

[Pirate88179]

Man I'm amazed at the things that come out of your mouth and I find them funny because they are ill!

Go visit "tickle" and watch him first hand get drunk and make moonshine! Or go over there to ask him for an autograph and ask him in wich other "reality" TV show he will be appearing next! Lol.

Everything that comes out of your mouth or you type 100% showns that you are not that smart man!

So you are telling me that "tickle" is an actor and only got hired based on his acting abilities of making moonshine?

On camera you have seen him hurt himself while drunk how many times?

You are living in a bubble man!

You need to stay in your bubble and stop talking that you know truth!

Sure, that is why "Tickle" has been studying acting and appearing in plays and local commercials until his "big" break.  Have you never seen an actor portray (as in fake, pretend, imitate) someone being drunk?  No actor ever has played a character that has imbibbed too much?  Never ever before?

I can't wait to tell the fellows at work that I met a guy online that actually thinks Moonshiners is actually real, ha ha.  They will most likely not believe me so I will print out a copy of your post as proof.  (Proof...get it?  As in 90 proof, 100 proof..etc?

I do not know what fantasy world you are living in but...Superman can not really fly...that is just acting.  Batman is not real.  Those are actors that go to jail on Law & Order, not real criminals.  Dragnet was not real.

The only real "shine" on that Show is Tim Smith's Moonshine, which is available at certain liquor stores.  You can buy this legally because it is made legally.
Have you ever had moonshine Joel?  Have you not seen the fat kid on that show tip up and drink an entire quart canning jar of "shine" all at once?  That should have been a clue.  If he, or anyone, did that...they would be dead.  I have had real moonshine many times and, it was illegal.  But, it was an emergency situation and I needed it for medicinal purposes.

Bill

PS  Professional wrestling is not real either.  Ever hear of Hillbilly Jim?  (Jim Morris)  He lives here in town and I used to work out with him.  He is real, Professional wrestling, not so much.

[joel321]

Sarkeizen, I speak in terms of the whole picture in general. That is where the truth lies. The whole purpose of a goal whether it be applying for a job or going to the moon! The ULTIMATE goal is the finish line.

There is a communication boundary between you and me. It is both in the English language and also in the personal beliefs! And that is why I know that what I speak is correct. On everything that I do be it personal or professional, I always FOCUS on the ULTIMATE GOAL. I never get distracted from the ultimate goal of everything. That is "evolution"! When you start to chop off my sentences and drift of from the ULTIMATE GOAL you just derail the main point that at this point, we are not even talking about the main point. Transfer the scientific mentality to the way you think too snce our brain thoughts do mental science too. For example, the nerves. I'm newly born and I touch fire I get burn hence the brain and nerves tell the conscious mind that fire is bad to touch = mental science.

At this point I don't see your ULTIMATE GOAL. What is your ultimate goal?

I'm going to respond to you but it's too way out of context right now since you just keep on chopping up my main points. Which now just is more for the entertaining human purposes rather than actually learning the ULTIMATE GOAL.

Nope.  The evidence I provide is relevant and reasonably clear and certainly can be made more so if you're confused or doubt something.

When I tell you that when having the flu virus in the body coughing to the ground or coughing inside your shirt will prevent 80% of contamination and you tell me NO! I kind of question you mentality as a "professional".

Let me know when you start explaining.  Explanations usually involve MORE relevant information not less.  So far you've said that "born" means when I came out of my mother right?  However the original context for "born" was about viruses.  Do viruses have mothers?  See again you say:

Ok...tell me from where viruses come from? Explain to me how the virus is CREATED? Lol

Again, this can't be what you meant by "How are viruses born?" since viruses don't have sperm or ovaries.   Again, what makes me think you are faking your poor English is how you can't change the word you are using.  Why not say: "reproduce"or "replicate" if that's what you mean.  If it's not, look it up in a dictionary and find another word that applies to viruses.  Generally speaking we do not say that "A virus is born".

OK I understand what you mean but you have to understand what I mean in general since I don't speak the science language. Do you even understand how lawyers write their English. When you sign a contract/agreement, do you really understand what they mean 100%? no! Since you don't speak their language. The same applies to everything.

So yes, I'm using regular everyday language talking about how viruses "reproduce" or "replicate". And I'm sure you figured that out a while back.

So now explain to me how viruses "reproduce"?

Explain to me how the flu virus is born and why can't we have a cure for it?

Nope.  That's you.  I listed something like 23 different topics that YOU added to the discussion.  If you don't want to talk about those things. 

All I see is the ULTIMATE GOAL no matter what words thefiine the ultimate goal, the goals goal cannot change. That's all.

Dude.  ADD is a real disease, it can not be diagnosed over the internet. You aren't mocking me.  You are mocking people who suffer from a real disease and that is entirely uncalled for.  Please grow up.

Are we talking about the same ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder?

That is not a "disease" unless you can tell me what virus causes it?

ADD is due to TV commercials, magazine commercials, radio commercials, ADVERTIZING!

We can even do a study about this very simple. Your unconscious mind is manipulated by advertising, you probably see the same commercial 40 times a day x 6 days a week = ?

This gives people ADD! Or is it a virus? You tell me!

Exceptionally unlikely.

you need to give a little more effort than just be so bland, that is not scienfitic mind!

Wrong.  Autism is diagnosed long before most children play a video game.

The ULTIMATE GOAL is that you don't know what causes it! Also, the ultimate goal is that you don't have a cure for it plain and simple.

What causes autism?

...and by born you mean something to do with sperm and ovaries.  Right? Does ADD have those things?  Again you've been given many chances to use other terms.  For example ages ago I used the term "risk factor" but you can't let go of the ambiguous term "born".  Probably because at least some of your language is an affectation.

Born, came to be, frutify, "big banged", they are just words. By now you should know what I mean by born from a person that does not speak scientific language. Your only understand would be "replicated" right?

I don't get distracted from the main ULTIMATE GOAL. So let me change my "born" word to "replicate" in the virus world.

Tell me how they replicate? And from where the virus came to existance in the first place?

*clap* *clap* *clap* That was amazingly crazy. 

Well next year when you get the flu (most likely a lot of flu strain) your coworkers, family members, friends, acquaintances, strangers, will not get the flu virus if you cough to the floor or cough inside your t-shirt. Sick people are also responsible to prevent the virus spreading too.

I'm trying to tell people here that if you get the flu virus to cough down to the floor and/or cough inside your t-shirt, you are telling me that I'm not giving good advice?

Am I wrong about that advice?

[joel321]

Lol Out Of Topic here.

Sure, that is why "Tickle" has been studying acting and appearing in plays and local commercials until his "big" break.  Have you never seen an actor portray (as in fake, pretend, imitate) someone being drunk?  No actor ever has played a character that has imbibbed too much?  Never ever before?

I've seen a lot of movies where an actor pretends to be drunk. What are you saying bro? Even jackie chang (the martial artist) has a movie called "drunken master." It's a good movie as entertainment material.

So your logic fails you man.

How can you tell when a person is really drunk?

I can't wait to tell the fellows at work that I met a guy online that actually thinks Moonshiners is actually real, ha ha.  They will most likely not believe me so I will print out a copy of your post as proof.  (Proof...get it?  As in 90 proof, 100 proof..etc?

Well you fail to see the real facts = you don't have evidence it is fake!

I do not know what fantasy world you are living in but...Superman can not really fly...that is just acting.  Batman is not real.  Those are actors that go to jail on Law & Order, not real criminals.  Dragnet was not real.

I think you don't understand the difference between fiction VS reality TV shows!

The only real "shine" on that Show is Tim Smith's Moonshine, which is available at certain liquor stores.  You can buy this legally because it is made legally.
Have you ever had moonshine Joel?  Have you not seen the fat kid on that show tip up and drink an entire quart canning jar of "shine" all at once?  That should have been a clue.  If he, or anyone, did that...they would be dead.  I have had real moonshine many times and, it was illegal.  But, it was an emergency situation and I needed it for medicinal purposes.

lol. The overall ULTIMATE GOAL speaks the truth, since it is a TV show they will through some fictional stuff in there fo the laughs = "Have you not seen the fat kid on that show tip up and drink an entire quart canning jar of "shine"....but then again have you seen the TV show "Stan Lee's Superhumans"? Go watch all episodes and tell me which is fake and which is real?

I have had real moonshine many times and, it was illegal.  But, it was an emergency situation and I needed it for medicinal purposes.

Oh bill you and your stories. lol

[sarkeizen]

It is both in the English language

Where your problems sound increasingly made up.

I never get distracted from the ultimate goal of everything.

You did bring up 23 different topics which you then blamed on me and then used to claim I had ADD.  Which disparaged ADD sufferers by using their disease as a way to put someone down.  So if you NEVER get distracted then the 23 topics were entirely on topic and my responses were of course on topic and you had no reason to pretend that I have ADD.

But you still need to apologize to ADD sufferers.

our brain thoughts do mental science too

Our brains allow us to perceive experiences.  However only abstract concepts like rationality, logic and math actually let us do science.

At this point I don't see your ULTIMATE GOAL. What is your ultimate goal?

To try to correct your mistakes for your edification, the edification of others and my immense amusement because talking to you SeaMonkey, realstupidcanandian makes for interesting stories to tell people.

When I tell you that when having the flu virus in the body coughing to the ground or coughing inside your shirt will prevent 80% of contamination and you tell me NO!

What I said was there have been studies of airborne viruses that show that coughing in an area allows for infection in that area.  Again your idea that if someone points their face toward the ground then all the majority of viruses are flung to the ground is based on a flawed "mental science" process.  Viruses are exceptionally small and light.

I don't speak the science language.

Then look it up or I'm not here to do your homewo rk for you.  You are expected to do some work.

Do you even understand how lawyers write their English. When you sign a contract/agreement, do you really understand what they mean 100%? no!

Arbitrarily stupid standard of evidence.  In any sufficiently complex language structure you could claim that people do not have 100% confidence.  However if in your "language of the deliberately stupid" you mean "Do you have a good understanding of legal terms and language" then the answer is yes.  A portion of my job involves reading contracts.

So yes, I'm using regular everyday language

No you are completely definitely absolutely not using "everyday English". You would rarely,in English say "A virus is born" so by definition it is not "everyday language".  You are using the "language of the deliberately stupid" which is what I'll call this from now.   

talking about how viruses "reproduce" or "replicate". And I'm sure you figured that out a while back.

If you knew those terms and knew them so well that you knew they are synonymous with what you tried to express with "born" why did you fight so hard to use born?  Why did you use stupid analogies that had to do with vaginas and ovaries?  See as someone who spends a lot of time around people who don't speak English very well.  This sounds like you were faking.

So now explain to me how viruses "reproduce"?

Viruses reproduce by using cells there are somewhere between 7 and 12 mechanisms that we know of depending on how we are counting.

Explain to me how the flu virus is born

I don't answer "born" questions.  Please rephrase.

and why can't we have a cure for it?

Poorly phrased.  A virus is not a disease.  You have probably a number of samples of plant and animal viruses in your body right now.  They aren't replicating so they aren't a problem.  "Can't" presupposes some medical knowledge that we don't have.

All I see is the ULTIMATE GOAL

...but you introduced 23 different topics.

Are we talking about the same ADD = Attention Deficit Disorder?

Yes.

That is not a "disease" unless you can tell me what virus causes it?

That is neither the colloquial or clinical definition of the term "disease".  ADD is a disease in English.

ADD is due to TV commercials

Absolutely no evidence for that belief and considerable evidence against it.  Epidemiology for ADD does not increase commensurately with television use.  TV's per capita peaked somewhere in the 1980's in the US however the DSMIV ADD peaked in 2000.

We can even do a study about this very simple. Your unconscious mind is manipulated by advertising, you probably see the same commercial 40 times a day x 6 days a week = ?

Nope.  You need to read a kids book on experiment design.  Even if your experiment yielded some result it does not necessitate the conclusion and the conclusion does not necessitate your hypothesis. 

Try reading: http://www.amazon.ca/Art-Science-Activities-Christine-Publications/dp/B00EKYP44E/ref=sr_1_5?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1422454055&sr=1-5&keywords=%22the+art+of+science%22+kids

Also as I don't watch TV or radio with commericals this wouldn't apply to me.  Again your thinking is more like 5 degrees rather than 360.

you need to give a little more effort than just be so bland, that is not scienfitic mind!

Actually this is science.  I've assigned a probability to something based on observations which have been randomized.

The ULTIMATE GOAL is that you don't know what causes it!

I think you need to look up what a "goal" is.  "know what causes" is the wrong phrase.  More accurately we don't know enough of the risk factors to be able to predict nor do we know enough about the mechanism to interfere with it's development.

What causes autism?

Primarily genetics but it's plausible that there's an series of environmental factors.

Born, came to be, frutify, "big banged", they are just words. By now you should know what I mean by born from a person that does not speak scientific language.

Few of those words are ordinary English terms regarding viruses one of them isn't even in an English dictionary.  Even where I could construe a meaning the terms and phrases you are using refer more to ontology than replication. So this isn't a question of "not speaking scientific terms" it's a question of you speaking the "language of deliberately stupid".
m differ from "replicate" and "reproduce" in a significant way.  All of them imply ontology rather than replication.

Your only understand would be "replicated" right?

If you mean "replicated" then say "replicated". 

I don't get distracted from the main ULTIMATE GOAL.

You appeared to get distracted 23 times...of course you blamed those on me.

Tell me how they replicate?

I mentioned this above already.

And from where the virus came to existance in the first place?

Which virus?

family members, friends, acquaintances, strangers, will not get the flu virus if you cough to the floor or cough inside your t-shirt.

Again actual research says these things would not be as good as vaccination.

Am I wrong about that advice?

Unless you're moving from the GRAND ULTIMATE GOAL OF THE FOREVER PEOPLE then yes it's bad advice since vaccination is generally better.  However if you are shifting to yet another argument (i.e. Is this equal to or better than absolutely nothing) then you're probably not doing any harm.

[sarkeizen]

Again SeaMonkey we await your response to your apparent claim that Joel's claim that I have ADD is somehow not talking about ADD at all. 

I'm very, very, very interested in your views on this statement you appeared to make.