Vaccinations; recent developments

[orbut 3000]

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2008/09/09/barack-obama-provaccine/

[sarkeizen]

No.  It simply shows that our "brilliant" president can play both sides and hope we forget what he said before.

The quote I found said this: "We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it."

The best light I think one can read this in is that he has corrected his view and didn't say "ooops" which would have been awesome but I hold a low bar for politicians.  Hillary was a bit closer but she supported a vaxxed/unvaxxed study which would have been a waste of research dollars.  McCain pretty much outright blamed mercury for autism.

So when grading on a curve...

[Pirate88179]

The quote I found said this: "We've seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it's connected to the vaccines. This person included. The science right now is inconclusive, but we have to research it."

The best light I think one can read this in is that he has corrected his view and didn't say "ooops" which would have been awesome but I hold a low bar for politicians.  Hillary was a bit closer but she supported a vaxxed/unvaxxed study which would have been a waste of research dollars.  McCain pretty much outright blamed mercury for autism.

So when grading on a curve...

True enough Sark.  But, and no one on  either side is talking about this...the reason obama is going to use his executive powers to ORDER measles vaccinations is really due to his allowing (from another exec. order) 50,000 illegal children into the US and once here, dispersed to secret locations around the US where they are now attending school.  We had eradicated the measles in this country as you are aware.  Now, there is a shocking rise of this disease and no one can figure out why it is back.  Give me a break.  He caused this problem (illegally using powers he does not have) and now, he is going to order all children vaccinated...EXCEPT, illegals as he claims we have no jurisdiction over them.

I mean, can you believe this crap?

Now, the repubs are the bad guys because they are questioning his power to order parents to have their children vaccinated.  A lot of parents do not want to do this due, mostly to the unsubstantiated rumors of a tie between vaccinations and autism.  So, to me, the answer is to give the parents the choice, and educate them on the risks and benefits using real math from real studies. (Like the numbers you have been using)

I do not like to be ordered to do anything.  I refuse (mostly because it is no where near affordable for me) to participate in the obamacare nightmare...nor will I ever pay the fine. (I can not afford that either)  The fine, right now, is half of what I make/month.  The cost of participating is 90% of my monthly income for a  $10,000 deductible plan.  No way I can do this.

This sucks.

Bill

[MarkE]

Unvaccinated children should not be allowed to attend school: PERIOD.

[orbut 3000]

I mean, can you believe this crap?

No, it sounds a little too weird.


Maybe it's only half as scary if you try to research and find out the lower-caps truth. The secret import of 'illegal' children sounds pretty much like the usual scaremongering truther/birther bullshit the mentally slow are fed by the Koch brothers and their drones. Tea-Party material to fvck the poor and uneducated just a little bit more.