Vaccinations; recent developments

[Cap-Z-ro]

     There must be some malfunction of the cell hosting the virus in as much that the white blood cells are unable to identify the infected cell.   Cells must communicate somehow as to the state of their well being.   Once the cell membrane is breached and the virus is inside the castle walls so to speak why doesn't the cell signal it's being attacked?.   The virus must either dissolve the cell membrane or attach itself to the cell and inject it's genetic material or disguise itself as a nutrient.  But once in why doesn't the cell just kill itself or at least red tag itself.  The dissolution of the cell membrane must leave a scar.  Why isn't this scar perceived by the cop cells?  Does the attack on the cell membrane go unnoticed by the cell?  When we get cold tired and hungry does the cell loosen up on what it allows inside?  Do microbes offer up a trojan horse to the cell disguising themselves as energy laden proteins needed by the cell? 
    As far as vaccines are concerned I always understood that they worked well on bacteria.  The bacteria were killed and their carcass was injected.  Bacteria have a cell wall and the antigens were able to be made by the body and stored in the library for future use in case a live bacteria is encountered.  But there is such a small distinction between a live virus and a dead virus or a mutant virus I would think the job would be formidable.   If however you were able to have the war waged outside the victim where it couldnt spread it would be a good thing.   Like take a blood sample and culture it from time to time.  The virus infects the culture and the culture gets the cold.  Once the antigens are devloped for the diseased culture these are seperated and you take a shot of smart white blood cells.

   

Sparks, don't forget the PTB has had access to advanced technology from past civilizations which they kept to themselves for who knows how long, so we have no idea how long bio weapons have been used on us.

I have just recently come across some info relating to that, which I'd rather not get into here...if you wish, PM me your phone number and I can relate it to you by phone...its quite complicated.

I'm on mountain time.

Regards...

[SeaMonkey]

The Program of the Matrix is Crashing

Just look at the desperation we're witnessing. Crude military and police state
maneuvers are only one aspect. The biggest clue is seeing the previously
incremental and now hyperbolic use of monstrous lies that are becoming so
transparent and unbelievable to just about anyone. Agreed, there are the
entranced apathetics who swallow anything, but we're witnessing a meltdown
before our eyes.  If you can't see it, look again.

You Want Proof?

First of all you're in the wrong mindset if you're looking only for data or left
brained evidence, although it's out there for those who can see. When we come
to understand the vibrational workings of our holographic reality everything takes
on new dimensions and opens us up to understanding these more esoteric
notions.

Those with hearts that can see feel this. I say hearts because much of what we
need to grasp or at least track is intuitive. Taking all of the information and dot
connecting and personal spiritual experience together paints very clear pictures,
we just need to trust what we're seeing and learning. When we explore these
realities we're sensing we start to notice how they're manifesting.

Forbidding free speech, shooting civilians with no cause, obvious mega bullshit in
the news, wars with no possible end, deliberate poisoning, starvation and
dumbing down of populations? I mean, c'mon.

Complete article here.

Sark-E is feeling the desperation too.
The lies are no longer 'working' as well as they
once did...

[Cap-Z-ro]

It goes far deeper that that SM...same invitation I gave Sparks applies to you.

Regards...

[sarkeizen]

lol. You and your little games.

You issued the challenge.  I came up with a reasonable test.  You chickened out.:

keep things in context you little dimwit.

So if someone is talking about a game you chickened out of.  I shouldn't change the topic to sentence parsing?

You just like to ASSUME you know others peoples inner thoughts as if you are a fortune teller.

No, I make hypothesis based on incomplete data.  Just like everyone does every day.

Time after time I keep on telling you that a lawyers language, even though they both speak native language, will not understand each other, hence language barrier. NOT in the native language ITSELF but in the language of defining the terms. How hard is that to understand?

It's just irrelevant.

I already mentioned that millions of dollars are lost by many businesses each year due to the lack being able to communicate with each other

Also irrelevant.

I'm sure you can understand the language barrier when you try to communicate with your girlfriend, they both speak different "languages" sort to speak while they both speak the same language. i.e. men are from mars, women are from Venus. You dumbo.

Being sexist doesn't really help people communicate.

No shit. Nothing is 100% guaranteed. What we focus on is at least 80-90% positive results.

You won't get that with protective measures either.  A fair number of vaccines do though.

A vaccine only tries to hep the immune system in the body regarding one strain.

Not a strain, a serotype.   

Tell me if I get vaccinated from 25 different strains

You get vaccinated with a serotype.  Not a strain.

of the measles right now, how many other toxic things will I be injected with?

Which things in vaccines do you consider toxic?  Is water toxic?

it should be mandatory to explain to everyone what they are being injected with the same way as it is MANDATORY to label all food consumer products with a label as to what it is in the product.

Food labels provide information on what is in your food (however not with perfect detail).  Vaccine monographs tell the same thing.  They both are available to the public. You can always ask your doctor for the information before getting vaccinated.

Do you take the flu shot every year?

Almost.

PREVENTATIVE measures

Which vaccines are,

Actually learning about viruses in the sub-molecular level is way better than getting the vaccine BECAUSE the only people that get sick do not know how they work.

Untrue.  People who worked with the American ebola patients knew how viruses work used far greater protective gear than you have described, far more formal procedures than you have described and still only reduced the r0 by half.  So you wouldn't expect the r0 for measles to be any less than 8 with your measures.  Thus you are wrong.

See how I didn't CHOPPED your paragraph. Lol, now explain to me the bold part?

Given a random sample of information Bayesian updating is guaranteed to optimize a problem.

Your lack of looking at things from different angles is your Achilles heel.

All I'm doing is looking at the angles you are providing.  I just can see that you're full of shit.

how do you know that vaccinations do not cause long term crippling ailments?

How do you know that not getting vaccinated does not cause long term crippling ailments?

Remember when I told you that lab animals (where the vaccine is tested and produced) do not LIVE AS LONG AS HUMANS DO! So they can't not no the long term side effects if the lab rat dies before 100 years expectancy.

I've already stated that this is generally not what you use animal models for.

Give me the link?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=vaccine+monograph

Source?

Drug monographs, generally provide a list of the studies done to test them for safety and efficacy.

This is what they do---let me inject this in here. Lets wait. It didn't die, well it must be safe for humans too.

Nope.  Toxicity studies are usually looking for tolerance or sometimes teratogenicity.

I'm asking you specifit questions smart one.

a) That wasn't a question and b) you're not being very specific.  You can't even differentiate between a strain and a serotype.

I was not referring in to the measles strain being more dangerous to people than the flu virus. I was merely saying that it spreads the same way as the flu virus does.

No you are assuming that every and all mechanisms are identical.  If that was true the r0's would be closer.  They're not so it's reasonable to believe that there are different mechanisms at work.

Well that's the problem, you don't care what the negative ill affects due to human bodies as long as the virus is "controlled".

Nope.  Just the opposite.  It's you who don't care about the number of people who are injured just as long as you get to preserve your dogma.

It is better to teach how they get it in the first place

Evidence suggests you are wrong. 

Understanding how the virus spreads is wayy better than vaccines doofus.

Only if you're stupid...which you are.

Sooooo have you officially chickened out from the intellectual challenge.   Seems like it.

[sarkeizen]

Exercises entered into in order to boost EGO and SELF-IMPORTANCE.

Isn't Joel the person who was boasting about his abilities?  I just said: "Ok, lets play".  Perhaps Joel is, as he claimed superior to me in every intellectual way.  I often take lessons from people who are better at something than I am.  Why would I pass up this opportunity?