Vaccinations; recent developments

[joel321]

I do seem to understand viruses and infectious diseases more than you do.

The point is very simple. If you want to keep your car healthy, you maintain it it and follow the recommended procedures to do that. That same procedure is the same to the body as the root. When you get a check engine light, you know something is wrong and most likely then not, it will come due to lack of maintenance. I know for a fact that there are cars out there going on 600, 000 miles and some even hit 1,000, 000. Taxi drivers know this first hand, but they might now know that the same applies to the body too.

The same can be said about the body but it is way harder to maintain it since is not as easy to find out the truth about who says what. How can they since people get bombarded with lies after lies over and over again. Like:

-fat free peanut butter.
-cereal is the healthiest meal of the day.
-margarine is good for the body.
-bagels are good
-bottled water is better
-etc etc

But at the end of the day those things are not healthy at all.

Now one does not require to stay healthy and virus free by understanding the virus in the micro level. Nor everyone requires mandatory vaccinations as they wish. That is just the lazy way of the "big brother" at the expense of many casualties. And I would not be surprised if it is way cheaper to mass vaccinate than to first test those that may have a higher risk of dying from a vaccine.

There are examples upon example that many people die or get severely sick from vaccines which like I already told you, they don't know who is at higher risk since there is no evaluation first.

That is very easy to see that even a monkey should be able to see but for some reason you feel like you are mr. know-it-all of medication for some weird mental blockage.

Define "cure".  As I've said vaccines are generally prevention (although occasionally treatment) . A treatment would be more like Zanamivir (which can also be preventative)

You don't need treatment if you prevent it first in the first place. Right now gay males are at higher risk of getting HIV because they are more careless at stopping the spread of it. I'm pretty sure you know this right? It's all pretty simple, all one has to do is INVENTORY of every scenario and then go from there NOT just go ape shit and get mandatory HIV, if there was one, to everyone.

So the cure if preventative measures. A vaccine is not preventative measures, they only give the false hopes that one cannot get sick where a lot of things can go wrong. The most important is to teach everyone how the virus spreads first. I already mentioned that tests have been conducted in stadiums where by doing little things can make 80-90% of the people wash their hands. Before the experiment, only 40%-50% where washing their hands in that participial experiment. Now think about how someone is going to spread the flu virus at a store, movie theater, school, work, etc...same shyt.

Why didn't you answered how the other items work? Maybe because you don't know? That is why you can't grasp the over all truth of how everything works. Like in the car analogy I gave you. It is the same. It is just easier to maintain a car because the parts can be bought. If you over fill your oil, you might destroy your engine. It will cost you money to repair it or even replace it, but when it comes to human body, it will cost you hundreds and hundreds of thousand to repair. And even that, you may not come out the same.

[Pirate88179]

Joel:

My chemist cousin told me that margarine is only one molecule away from being plastic.  Next time you are at a picnic and the flys are buzzing all around your food...open up a tub of margarine and watch what the flies do.  They will not go near it. The flies know something that you do not.

You call that eating healthy?

Butter is natural and good for you.

Bill

[joel321]

Butter is natural and good for you.

There's a professional guy out there that says that "fat free" everything is just a big cash cow. He said something about that the body needs fats. The healthy fats, that is. I never really saw his programs but I may search for them. I do have some DVDs from Dr. Fuhman that I haven't watched yet. From the google that I've done about him, it looks like he knows what he is talking about.

I think the name of the doctor regarding fats is David perlmutter

http://youtu.be/qgu7wiDRaLU

Here's a video example of Dr. Fuhrman

http://youtu.be/l5E6UkcH3CI

[sarkeizen]

Now one does not require to stay healthy and virus free by understanding the virus in the micro level.

You seemed to say this earlier and I said you were wrong.  Are you saying that you were stupid to say that?  Come on Joel.  You can say it!

Nor everyone requires mandatory vaccinations as they wish.

For what set of outcomes?  Until you say what you're measuring you really are saying nothing...which is sort of like saying it's a day that ends in "y".

And I would not be surprised if it is way cheaper to mass vaccinate than to first test those that may have a higher risk of dying from a vaccine.

Can you tell me exactly what is being tested for here? Hmmmm?  What tests would you order up?  How is it that you don't realize how absolutely stupid your suggestions are?

There are examples upon example that many people die or get severely sick from vaccines which like I already told you

The only thing you've "told" me is that you agree with an article which claims a death due to vaccination.  The article was written by someone with no expertise in the field and could easily be just as accurate if you replaced his head with a block of wood.  The claim is against what the ME and all available evidence says.   So where are all the other ones?  Are they as stupid as this one?

You don't need treatment if you prevent it first in the first place.

...and since vaccines are preventive measures you wholeheartedly support universal worldwide mandatory vaccination.

So the cure if preventative measures. A vaccine is not preventative measures

Actually yeah vaccines are preventative.  A preventative measure, in English is something which lowers the likelihood of something happening.  Vaccines lower the likelihood of getting sick for a particular serotype.  By contrast "treatment" is how you manage an event once it happens.  If you want to make up a word for "prevention that doesn't include vaccines" go ahead call it "Joel-Moronism" but don't just change the meaning of words because you don't like them.

Why didn't you answered how the other items work? Maybe because you don't know?

Because you have yet to make an argument that this is relevant.

In contrast your claim that you can grasp anything I can *is* relevant.  Your attempts to weasel out of playing "go" with me still make you look kind of stupid.

[SeaMonkey]

Dr. Andrew Moulden:  Every Vaccine Produces Microvascular Damage

Every Vaccine Produces Harm

Unfortunately, The Doctor's quest for Truth cost him his
life.  Those who control Allopathic Medicine and who
work to stamp out Truth often resort to murder to eliminate
their antagonists.  Medicine has become a very dirty Business.