Food for Thought: Our World

[sm0ky2]

smokey, energy is relatively affordable 

Well I am glad that Germany figured it out.


Here in America, we still pay an arm and a leg for electricity
and gasoline, natural gas....


It needs to be free.
There is no other sustainable option for our human future

[kajunbee]

LancaIV , what is cost per kWh in Germany. A google search says the first half of 2019 it was 31 eurocents per kwh. I don't know if anyone in the United States pays that much.  In the area where I live it cost a touch over 9 cents per kWh.

[lancaIV]

kajunbee,"..... what is cost per KWh in .....", is a not defined question and need to be defined  !

When we think in "energy costs" and now specific electricity, we know that we do not go to the next market and fill "1 KWh" in a plastic box or plastics-sack !
To get electricity by a provider there is a need from a grid system.
(in future the electric cars e-load-station can be also used as private household battery-/capacitor-set e-provider)

This grid-system costs you find as price(value !?) increase of"urbanized plots" !
Between 1sqm "not urbanized" ~ "rural" land and " urbanized land" there are more than 10000% price increases.
1 Euro for 1 sqm  mobile living units to 100 -1000 Euros per sqm  for "conventional construction codes" plots  !

Most people do not calculate the full electricity price in " all inclusive" manner and thinking. !

Then the professional installation from outside to your house  !

Then the monthly fix costs in the electricity bill for grid maintenance et cetera. !

At last for each used Ampere-hour which by average alternating Voltage/tension in AC-grids gives your KWh-bill price.,the "tariffs/prices scale"  !

There is an electricity b2b and a b2c market,the second is the private household related- in average 300% b2b price level- market ,in some countries liberized and in others by only one estatal/public energy provider served !

"relatively"cheap is not.     " por gratia/ costs-free " :

3000 KWh /p.a.~ 250 KWh p.m  grid-electricity 4 habitants household a 30 €cents in Germany

by 3000 € monthly all-included-household income per month : 75 EUROS/3000 EUROS. =  2,5%


Let us change the above "grid-provider"- condition to E.U-in situ/in place= own micro-grid system- future program :

3000 KWh/p.a.~ 250 Wh pm x average10 € cents SELF-generation costs : 25 EUROS/3000 EUROS = 0,833 %

So when we think and write/speak about lower DIRECT energy/electricity costs per private household we are in a

      BEFORE/AFTER = LESS 2 PER CENT TOTAL COSTS RELATED TO TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME
( for this given example )

    By 5 €cents SELF-generation costs :

   12,5 EUROS/3000EUROS ~ 0,42% AFTER to  75 EUROS/3000 EUROS= 2,5% BEFORE
   ALSO IN THE "LESS 2% FROM TOTAL HOUSEHOLD INCOME" range


The "FREE ENERGY"-technology is an advanted method for autonom and mobile living households,whose does not have to pay for increased " urbanized plots/grid-infrastructure costs and these service serving personal costs" !
                       
In Germany a part from the costs is as EEG an estatal tax/tributation.
When smOkey2 wrote about U.S.-american electricity prices/costs he did not remarked the average U.S.-b2b-electricity costs/prices :

                                                          in average 5,5 $cents/KWh


And this equals the first target : UScents to €cents = 5 EURO-cents/KWh SELF-generation on-demand electricity


"relatively cheap" also www.oeko-energie.de the "conventional household" to " intelligent household"
        KWH- electricity consume/costs comparison  in mind :

      BEFORE : UP TO 18 KWh PER DAY.    to AFTER : 3 KWh PER DAY ( + solar heat energy/gas owen et cetera)

And : www.mtbest.net the "0,8 KWh electricity consume per day" publicated minimum eco-living  "provocation"


But : beside electricity there is also the use of " heating oil/gas-oil" or natural gas and this are then the

"Total households energy costs + car/-s fuel" which will get in future in Germany cause CO2- certification costs
from 10 EUROs /ton CO2 to 55 EUROs/ton CO2  2025 a political price increase :
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.n-tv.de%2Fwirtschaft%2FCO2-Plaene-heben-die-Heizkosten-an-article21464975.html


In smOkey's confederation they have cheap energy resources :
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/11/business/energy-environment/natural-gas-shale-chevron.html
2020 estimated 2,45 USD per million British units shale gas price means.

https://www.inchcalculator.com/convert/million-btu-to-kilowatt-hour/
2,45 USD/293 KWh ~ 0,85 USD-cent/KWh or https://www.traditionaloven.com/tutorials/energy/convert-barrel-oil-equivalent-boe-to-kilo-watt-hr-kwh.html
                                   14,45 USD per barrel crude-oil-equivalent shale gas market price

                                    EXPENSIVE OR CHEAP ( without CO2 certificate costs)
             

With cheap co-generation plants the U.S.- industry can today generate by self-organizing in situ for the same/lower price than actual their electricity provider. !               

This will hold the U.S. electricity b2b prices for long time ( shale gas and nuclear electricity price dependent) down       

[ramset]

NE USA turnkey out the wallet costs Elec + support system .31 KWH [+ whatever extras surprises can be sneaked in]
@ Smokey
I agree ....like sunshine or oxygen FE should cost the same [if harvested from ambient],if they want to Tax to keepstability ...so be it.

no more burning stuff to grow the planet.

[kajunbee]

Good morning lancaIV, thanks for the informative reply.