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What's wrong with this

Started by Floor, December 14, 2014, 12:05:50 PM

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MarkE

Quote from: tinman on January 02, 2015, 09:46:33 PM
There is just to many holes and theories in science and physics Floor,and Mark(in a couple of different threads)has contradicted him self when using his physics and well know science. He says in one instant that mass cannot change regardless of the state that mass may be in-EG,water to HHO. But then he states that mass increases as it approaches the speed of light ???

Well-Mass either can or cannot increase or decrease-which is it?.
Context matters as does accurate quotations.  Rest mass is invariant.  The energy required to accelerate a given mass at non-relativistic velocities is essentially just the time integral of the acceleration multiplied by the rest mass.  The energy expended to go between two velocities is:  0.5*m*(VEND2 - VSTART2).  That approximation loses accuracy as velocities become a significant fraction of the speed of light.  Then the velocity dependent term in the denominator of the energy equation starts to grow exponentially.
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In fact,this deserves a thread of it's own
It's time to tare down physics into fact/theory and fiction.

Floor

@tinman

Is it that

1.mass cannot change regardless of the state that mass may be in-EG,water to HHO. or
or
2. that mass increases as it approaches the speed of light) ?

good question, perhaps this does deserve another thread ?

It's been difficult to remain on topic as it is.

                   floor

tinman

Quote from: Floor on January 03, 2015, 12:09:07 AM
@tinman

Is it that

1.mass cannot change regardless of the state that mass may be in-EG,water to HHO. or
or
2. that mass increases as it approaches the speed of light) ?

good question, perhaps this does deserve another thread ?

It's been difficult to remain on topic as it is.

                   floor
Yes,things seem to have taken a left turn from topic,and thus the new thread i started.

Floor

@MarkE

May be you are multitasking right now ? You may of course do as you wish, but I hope that
you will be able to spend some time with what I'm going to say here.

This is a topic which I have started.  This I think, entitles me to some latitude, what I need to say will take a few words.   

The fact that most of the discussion on my topic has been off topic, is only partly your fault.
It is also a result of the tactics I have used to get to this point. It's something that I hadn't fully anticipated.   It's just some thing that I have had to cope with, in order to get to this
point.

Pages and pages of OFF SUBJECT material not just OFF TOPIC material.  The emphasis I have
placed by using capitalization is not to quibble (some fine point) with you.

I have had a strategy and a direction through out this endeavor.  I realize that you may be / should be incredulous and doubting of that.

My strategy required that I put someone LIKE you into a defensive posture, in order to demonstrate something, to that person. I'm glad in one respect that this happened to be you. Because I think/hope you took it unscathed. (I'll explain the emphasis on the word LIKE later, if need be.) Unfortunately it was unlikely that I could do this in a purely technical arena.  This was one of the features of my idea that I really had to struggle with before I could commit to the strategy, and honestly all through it's implementation.   It really upped the anti (my risk) if I needed to create a perceptual experience for that person that was on a personal level.  I had to weigh this level of risk against the potential value.  Believe me when I say that I was also examining  my own motives on a constant basis.

Here is a little less than the full gambit of the plan.

1. attract appropriate person.
2. get the person into a defensive posture.
3. challenge and defeat that person.
4. get that person to be in denial of his defeat.

The sum of this has required a lot of improvisation.

The next part is to (hope fully) regain that persons trust. 

Then to to get them to accept that they were defeated by a some one that was born into dire poverty, completed only one year of high school, and lived a third of his adult life as a homeless person.

This hasn't been "all just for my own vein glory".  Really.

That's all for now

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