Generator by Gerard Morin

[synchro1]

Oh really, is that what Tesla believed? Can you provide a credible reference supporting your statement?

As far as Chaniotakis is concerned... ask him why he cannot run two or three other induction hobs -- or even one --  from the "3.6 times the input" output of the first one. I love to see people's answers to that challenge.

@Tinsilly,

"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm

[tesletic]

"Tesla always said that his bi-filar pancake coil was an energy-amplifying coil!"

http://tesletic.view-tronics.com/tests.htm
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Here you can find some interesting phenomenons that produce these bifilars wish coincidence or not I used in the same way on the GEGENE project ! 
https://youtu.be/nFbv-_wd2Pw   

[tinman]

@Tinman,

Tesla believed the "Bifilar Pancake Coil" amplified power. Do you think there's any legitimacy to Chaniotakis's measurements of COP 3.6?

I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.

[synchro1]

I think Tesla's words(along the grape vine) have been twisted into things people would like to think was the case. As far as im aware,Tesla's idea behind the bifilar pancake coil was to increase the capacitance value of the coil to that of a single wound coil.

When the GEGENE setup first hit the FE community,i splashed out on a new induction cook top,and started doing some testing my self. I tried both a single wound coil,and a bifilar coil of exact same size,turn's,and wire gauge. I did not measure any difference of output between the two coil configurations. The best i could get in regards to P/in to P/out was about 76-77% output to that of the input to the induction cook top.

The one difference between a Tesla bifilar pancake coil and a standard single wire coil of same size shape,and wire length,was the bifilar coil could be pulsed at a higher frequency without distortion on the wave.

@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.

[TinselKoala]

@Tinman,

I really would have enjoyed seeing heat comparisons between the bifilar and the single wrap on the Gegene! I'm willing to bet any amount of money that the single wire pancake coil would begin to fry if left on the Gegene burner set on high. The inequality in A.C. impedance is what makes the difference between those types of coil wraps! Have a look at my sketch for an A.C. pulse bifilar attraction motor on the Skycollection thread, you'll see what the bifilar coil's good for.

Take his money, Tinman.

(and if you lower the induction hob's tank capacitor value slightly, to compensate for the increased self-capacitance of the TBC winding.... what do you see then?)

And we are still waiting for some credible reference that supports Synchro's claim about "what Tesla believed".

The problem with JLN's data is almost certainly in his measurement of the input power. You'll never see these people using a proper wideband integrating power meter.... which instruments exist _exactly because_ of the fact that measurement error with cheap consumer grade equipment is so common.