Delayed Lenz or not?... post your explaination!

[synchro1]

Luc:

I simply did not understand your prose.  In both of your explanations you don't mention the requirement for the prime mover to supply more mechanical power.  The burden is on you to express yourself properly if you want people to understand you.  What you seem to be saying is that a more efficient generator configuration in terms of electrical power out vs. mechanical power in is a good thing.  Who can argue with that?

From your YouTube clip, quoting you:

There is drag on the Dremel.  Again, the Dremel is acting like a conventional motor so the added Lenz drag of the generator coil load will only marginally reduce the speed of the Dremel while the electrical power draw of the Dremel will noticeably increase.

You second sentence is baffling.  Why do you say there will be no drag on the Dremel?  If you pull three watts from the generator coil there definitely will be drag on the Dremel.

Going back to the testing, there is no "delayed Lenz effect."

MileHigh

@Milehigh,

Here you see JLN'S setup with input power measuring instruments proving there is "Delayed Lenz Effect".

[gotoluc]

Luc:

From your YouTube clip, quoting you:

There is drag on the Dremel.  Again, the Dremel is acting like a conventional motor so the added Lenz drag of the generator coil load will only marginally reduce the speed of the Dremel while the electrical power draw of the Dremel will noticeably increase.

You second sentence is baffling.  Why do you say there will be no drag on the Dremel?  If you pull three watts from the generator coil there definitely will be drag on the Dremel.

MileHigh

The Dremel is connected to a Kill-Watt power meter at all time to verify its power consumption.
The power meter has zero change when the coil is connected to the 1 and 12.5 Ohm load. There may be a half Watt increase (hard to tell) when the coil is connected to the 25 Ohm load but it's delivering 3.2 Watts. 
So the coil connected to the 25 Ohm load delivers 2.7 Watts output at no power cost to the prime mover.
and the coil connected to the 12.5 Ohm load delivers 2 Watts output at no power cost to the prime mover.

This is what I'm interested in and I think others should also be.
Keep in mind my test device is a toy at best but it's enough to demonstrate a value and I think it warrants more study.
I've said and tested this in the past that a larger scale device will produce much more power with the same benefits.

Luc

[gotoluc]

First step would be to show that the generator coil/core does not cause any load even without the resistor.

1) Run the prime mover with no coil or anything near the rotor and determine the real input power from the supply, = Value 1.

It's a restriction of current due to frequency to high for inductance along with some other factors all well explained by conventional
theory and fitting into an under unity reality.

I have no problem showing the power meter with coil open vs on load.

What I disagree with is removing the core, because,  If you took a standard PM generator and removed the cores you would find a drop in power requirement to it's prime mover. So there's no PM generator with zero eddy losses from the cores. Then why do such a test?

Also, I have not mentioned OU but rather suggesting a Generator efficiency boost

Luc

[minnie]

   synchro1,
                there's an old saying " There's no point closing the stable door after the horse
has bolted".
   If you can show an induced current without cutting lines you've done it!
            John.

[tinman]

The best way to do this test is to use an air core coil as the generating coil. This will eliminate the core drag on the prime mover that comes from the core it self. If you can show a speed up under load with an air core coil as the generating coil,then that is something well worth looking at.

@MH
Is the propagation of a magnetic field really the same as the speed of light?, and can you point me in the direction of any papers that show this to be the case?. The speed of light is not constant,as there are a few factors that can change the speed of light. Do these same factors change the speed of a magnetic field ?.