Lenz free generator

[lancaIV]

Hello i_ron,
how much flexibility are you giving to this machine ?
The rotor cw rotating ? ccw rotating ? cw or ccw rotating ? data results ?
better/same/worser ?
The coils: up-down input,down-up input ? data results ? better/same/worser ?
The rotor vertical,horizontal ?


Sincerely
              OCWL

[Magluvin]

I believe this is well documented.

0.5CV^2 sets up a curve both for charging and discharging,, so when you take the energy from a cap at a higher Voltage and discharge 1 Coulomb of charge carriers,, that will drop that cap 1V and raise a discharged cap up 1V,, those 2 energy values are not the same.

The cap charges up in Voltage by charge carriers displaced,, 1F= 1C per 1V,, so there is a volt to charge carrier relationship and that is what the capacitance value is.

Hadnt gone into this that far before.  Maybe that is what is meant by 'dont kill the dipole'?  Never got a good explanation on that before either. Possibly meaning to not take much from a charged cap while its being fed input? Dunno.

Mags

[EMJunkie]

Hi Ron - Thanks for sharing your results. Again your build is excellent!

Do you know if your Cores are saturating at any point?

As you say, your Input is: 134.75_Total

However the Shaft Torque Efficency is very much different under different load conditions:

   2243 RPM: 9_Watts / 9.8_Watts = 0.918_Times
   3143 RPM: 14.28_Watts / 8.6_Watts = 1.660_Times
   4837 RPM: 25.7_Watts / 23.3_Watts = 1.103_Times

So, we see that the Time Rate of Change does matter, but we see that there is an optimium freguency or operation: n = f (2 / p) 60

where

n = shaft rotation speed (rev/min, rpm)
f = frequency (Hz, cycles/sec, 1/s)
p = number of poles

Rearranging, we get: f =  n / (2 / p) / 60 = Optimium Frequency of operation = 52.3833333333333 Hertz

Which is interesting! Maybe beyond this point the Core is being saturated? Or is getting close?
   
Ron, your work is excellent!!! Thanks!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

[i_ron]

Hello i_ron,
how much flexibility are you giving to this machine ?
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Sincerely
              OCWL

Hi OCWL,


I find the RV is a very accurate way to see exactly how much it takes to drive different devices.


Here, in this case, the RV just by itself draws 43 watts.


With the device connected and with no load on the device it draws 105 watts.


So this is 62.6 watts just to drive this device. I think that is the Achilles heel, the fly in the ointment, the finally for further development.


Thanks for your interest and suggestions, 


Ron

[i_ron]

Hi Ron - Thanks for sharing your results. Again your build is excellent!

Do you know if your Cores are saturating at any point?

As you say, your Input is: 134.75_Total

However the Shaft Torque Efficency is very much different under different load conditions:

   2243 RPM: 9_Watts / 9.8_Watts = 0.918_Times
   3143 RPM: 14.28_Watts / 8.6_Watts = 1.660_Times
   4837 RPM: 25.7_Watts / 23.3_Watts = 1.103_Times

So, we see that the Time Rate of Change does matter, but we see that there is an optimium freguency or operation: n = f (2 / p) 60

where

n = shaft rotation speed (rev/min, rpm)
f = frequency (Hz, cycles/sec, 1/s)
p = number of poles

Rearranging, we get: f =  n / (2 / p) / 60 = Optimium Frequency of operation = 52.3833333333333 Hertz

Which is interesting! Maybe beyond this point the Core is being saturated? Or is getting close?
   
Ron, your work is excellent!!! Thanks!

   Chris Sykes
       hyiq.org

Thanks Chris!  interesting numbers for sure. Math is not one of my strong points so I am amazed at how you do this!!


Now to post mortem this, I was wondering if the flux path length through the laminates was the critical factor? Is this the reason Watson used such long cores in that famous machine???

Anyway, searching for what we learned here and you seem to be able to present this in a very understandable manner... so over to you.

Ron


Edit: saturation is another topic I am not too sure on. With one core locked on with the rotor vertical is a real tug 'o war to get it off, with two cores in place I can just twist one off so easily.... the area is 3/4 X 1 inch so fairly reasonable, that and it shows a square wave at all these RPM's so nothing untoward seems to be taking place?