Lenz free generator

[i_ron]

If you recall Ron, some 5 years ago I directed you to an experiment I did using a series motor coil / transformer configuration.
I asked myself exactly the question you just did, then thought to myself, well, let's find out.
The positive result was rather unexpected.

If your memory, like mine, ain't what it used to be, here's a refresher link, the relevant pages are 12 to 14.
Transformer use begins on page 13..... http://adams.5gbfree.com

Cheers

My memory is just like the link says, "This web page is not available", LOL

Will try again later for the web page but my memory tends to favour events from 40 or 50 years ago with more clarity than last week or  5 years ago. All I remember from then is the developing of our friendship as a pleasant and rewarding time.

Good to see you on board here --- we can share notes again.

Ron

[i_ron]

Are you going to define what you mean by motor/generator?

A generator with motor coils to provide the rotation. The generator function from either separate coils or recovery from the motor coils.


Ron

[i_ron]

You have adopted the standard view....

Question.....

Does a motor generate?

Yes. Alexander seemed to think so but I was not able to decipher how

Ron


PS: sunny but cool (8C) just going to have coffee before we go for our Sunday walk... be back later

[i_ron]

Without exception, as far as I know....every motor generates.  Alexander, among others recognized this.   Once this is accepted, a great deal of time and energy is invested in trying to find a method through which the output of the generator operating inside the motor while motoring, can be redirected from the supply to an external load.

Enjoy your coffee, the weather, your walk, and the company.

Thank you, it was enjoyed, the weather cool and crisp--- more like a November day than a spring day, lol

speaking of heterodyne-ing, I am reminded of what armagdn 03 said:

"Consequently I also posted an interesting way to accomplish this many moons ago. The idea is to use two transmitters, eccentric to each other, to create a beat frequency between the two.The beat frequency will be orders of frequency different from the transmitters, and so will be far outside their bandwidth. (Meaning that the BEMF of the pick up will not really be seen by the transmitters, thus not affecting their Q and resonant rise.)The pick up should be tuned to the beat frequency. When the pick up is also biased with a magnet to give it a coherent magnetic field AND set its bias point, the beat frequency will scatter the domains during one portion of the cycle, and let them re-cohere the next portion of the cycle, hence the term Degaussing Generator"


I knew that the computer could read the CEMF but not ways to redirect it from the supply--- continue please

And a graph I should have studied closer.

Ron

[lancaIV]

https://web.archive.org/web/20090922025637/http://www.georg-andresen.de/vollpol_synchron.html


Die Vollpoll-Synchronmaschine
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Wir hatten uns zuletzt mit der Frage beschäftigt, was passiert, wenn wir beim zugeschalteten Generator im Leerlauf den Erregerstrom erhöhen. Das Ergebnis ist nach Glchng.(2) ein Strom I(1) > 0. Bild 8 a) zeigt die Auswirkung: Die SpannungskomponentejX*(1)*I(1) liegt in Richtung der Netzspannung U jedoch aufgrund der Vorzeichens entgegengesetzt. Der resultierende Strom I(1) eilt der Spannungskomponente jX*(1)*I(1) um 90° nach. Gegenüber der Netzspannung U eilt der Strom I(1) um 90° vor .Das bedeutet: Die Maschine wirkt in diesem Fall als Kondensator.Bild 8b) zeigt die Auswirkung , wenn bei Leerlaufbetrieb die Polradspannung verkleinert wird: U(p) < U Bei gleichgerichteten Spannungskomponenten U und jX*(1)*I(1) eilt der Strom I(1) auch der Spannung U um 90°nach.Die Maschine arbeitet als Induktivität.
Dieses Verhalten (Phasenschieber) wird gelegentlich ausgenutzt, um mit reinen Blindleistungen die Stromnetzsituationen zu verbessern, indem z.B. die sehr oft induktiven Stromverbraucher kompensiert werden. (Verbesserung des cos j- Wertes)


for no-german-analphabets:
We had finally dealt with the question of what would happen if we increased the exciter current when the generator was connected at idle. The result is, according to equation (2), a current I (1)> 0. Figure 8 a) shows the effect: however, the voltage component jX * (1) * I (1) is opposite in the direction of the mains voltage U due to the sign. The resulting current I (1) follows the voltage component jX * (1) * I (1) by 90 °. In contrast to the mains voltage, the current I (1) is 90 °. This means that the machine acts as a capacitor in this case. Figure 8b) shows the effect when the rotor voltage is reduced during idle operation: U (p) <U In Rectified voltage components U and jX * (1) * I (1), the current I (1) also follows the voltage U by 90 °. The machine operates as an inductance.
This behavior (phase shifter) is occasionally exploited to improve the power conditions with pure reactive power, e.g. The very often inductive power consumers are compensated. (Improvement of the cos j value)

in search for:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierre-Simon_Laplace
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laplacescher_Dämon  and not the Maxwellian one