New Free Energy Conferences in Hamburg and Chicago

[rickfriedrich]

That is called integrity to not make claims you can't back up. That is good.
If you shoot someone down as this other guy does then you are close minded.
I do not push a MiB game. It is a fact that any device that puts out too much power can easily be made into a weapon and is therefore a national security threat in any country. That is no joke. And no, it is almost impossible to know from all the stories that are spread around what are real visits and what are not. That is why I said this is not going to be a storytelling meeting. I never was into that. Just practical stuff. Who can verify if such and such person was shut down because of MiB? Yes it makes a great story and draws people to yourself.
We all know of such a story but I figured out maybe the real reason for such a visit was because he was working with radio active materials and was potentially putting people at a health risk. Do those kinds of visits happen? No doubt. IDK I wasn't there. But if you cause a potential health risk or interference then you can expect a visit from some alphabets. And if you create too much power in a small system then there is also another kind of problem...
Yeah my brother's uncle has a friend is knows a guy who has that kind of money. lol
It is not easy. The biggest obstacle is what is being displayed here today. People are not willing to open their minds until everyone is doing it. There is a major change that needs to take place in society before the newer technology can come forward. And there is too much profit to be made for companies to jump ahead too soon. First we the people have to be milked as much as possible. If one thinks otherwise then one is ignorant of how the world works. I always see this with the battery companies. They know batteries can be restored and kept usable much longer than they are but they are into selling product. What would happen to this world if a little box suddenly replaced all power sources? Do you think that would be allowed?

Of course we understand the energy transportation concept; every fridge/freezer/ac works on that principle. You have no idea how open- or close-minded I am. I just won't make claims that I cannot back up.
"There are lines that you can't cross either..." please, not the MiB/PTB line.
It IS easy IF you have a genuine OU device. One of my acquaintances is a billionaire with solar cell manufacturing plants worldwide.

[MileHigh]

Haha you just want to laugh at me do you and make it all so easy to sweep under the carpet. I'm not really interested in talking to you about this because you just mock and show so much ignorance.
You didn't bother to even listen to the heart of the matter. I wrote that yes when the neon bulbs glow it usually means there is an insufficient load or none at all. Why twist that part out to make it like I said something about powering a neon was something significant. Why, because you are only interested in discrediting this which you do not understand. The output of these systems normally depends on the size, voltage and condition of the batteries being charged and the larger the battery bank the more charge takes place.
All that being said, now we add something to the output between the motor and the charging battery. Battery continues to be charged while input patter is only drawing 1W. Now additional outputs power 1 and 2 and 4 and 10 and 20 bulbs each requiring much more than 1 W to run.
Now pay attention mocker. I then said that while each bulb and load is added the neon bulbs on the motor start to light up and get brighter and brighter. I didn't say something about what it takes to power a neon bulb. lol If you knew the circuit you would understand what is happening here. The motor does not draw any more power and does not change rpm during this time.
There's your 1W challenge. What can you do with 1W? Power a motor 2500RPM while charging a battery and powering 100W leds?
No, you don't care about all that only with how much energy it takes to power the neon bulbs. lol You are a joke.

You don't need to play the wounded puppy.  Nor should you play straw man and put words in my mouth.   Based on the limited amount of information you provided I was just speculating on a scenario, and I posed it to you as a question with no malice or bad words in the question.  I just asked you a question.

As far as what you state above, then same as my previous post.  Please provide as much information as you can including schematics, diagrams, waveforms, measurements, etc.  If you showed exactly what you are talking about, then it can be explained.  There is a good chance that the explanation would have to be taught to you also, based on what I have seen of you in the past.  So whatever your claims are above, they are almost certainly not in the least bit remarkable at all.  That is the recurring issue that crops up with people like yourself and JB.  No amount of playing the wounded butterfly or doing any pseudo-science speculating or any of your own name-calling is going to change that.

which you do not understand.

I am assuming that you don't know me and so you are prejudging me.  You can't prejudge me and you don't know what I understand or do not understand.  The likelihood is that I understand more than you think.  Then there are others around here that are much more knowledgeable than me.

For me, for the last seven years I have watched the JB scene on an off.  I know that you split with JB but I don't know all the details and I really don't need to know the story.  So I am fully aware of you and have watched many clips by you and read you in the past.   In the old days of Google Video I even watched your long clip where you show a Bedini motor "self runner."  It looks like you are perhaps in a basement of a house and you had a crudely made Bedini motor built around a bicycle wheel.  Your claims of a "self runner" in that clip fall flat - nothing could have been further from the truth.  You relative knowledge is pretty much revealed in that clip, although that clip is quite old now so you could be much more knowledgeable now.   But honestly I am not getting the vibe.

Fake claims and tall tales = more DVDs sold, more book downloads, more heads at a conference.   That's the vibe that I have always gotten from JB and also from you.

The "sceptics and engineers don't know or understand what we are doing" is the Big Lie.  I know that you have to repeat it all the time so that it becomes second nature and people start to believe you.  The truth is that is a LIE, and based on observing you in the past, the average experimenter that truly knows what they are doing would knock over every "they don't understand this new stuff that is not in books" argument with ease.  It's all in books and you guys typically play with electronics at the "high school keener" level but without properly being able to explain why the neons light.  Instead of explaining why the neons light, you will say it is "radiant energy."  Likewise, "voltage with no current" to describe a discharging inductor is so bad that it is "not even wrong."

That's your reality check Rick.  In your line of business, truth and reality are not good for sales.

MileHigh

[rickfriedrich]

There is no point with you. You have already stated your intentions and limitations. You have proven to only be interested in mocking. The point is you are closed and only assumed the worst no matter what was said. I have not exactly provided no details. You already know everything about me, including what underwear I have on. At least the other guy said sorry. You will not own up to anything. You cannot be wrong about anything in your mind apparently.  I'm joking around with as well because I don't take you seriously at all. I'm having a little fun here so don't be offended with my giving back the crap you are throwing at me. If we all met in person I bet we would all shake hands at the end of the day.
I know about what you are saying. The problem is that I came on here and posted a positive notice and you have come on just mocking and accusing. And actually I care very little about Free Energy. It will not change the world as so many assume. It is the right attitudes that are far more important. Unless people are honest and humble and treat others with respect this world has no hope. So I would rather you people learn the scientific method and learn respect than have your electrical bills reduced. People need to get beyond the slave mentality in science and in life. That is what I am interested in promoting. It is much better that people be taught to not be prejudiced (contrary to what the school systems train us to be) than be given more efficient systems. Our meetings are for open people and I try to make this a theme. We had a guy last meeting come in and make a big commotion about using his meters and whathaveyou. He went on about how the motor was not possible and that he didn't test it. etc. It was interesting that he made the most noise for someone who didn't even pay and slipped out without paying. lol Then he missed the most important parts where all his questions were answered. So what I'm saying is there is so much impatiences and blindness. It is not the technology at fault but the prejudices. Can you imagine what progress there would be if the schools started teaching students how to think for themselves rather than just to memorize their facts that they really don't know how to evaluate. It is such a sad day when engineers trust so much in their meters that they cannot even ride on a boat and enjoy life.
All the best MileHigh in living in that slave box. Hopefully one day you can begin to know how nature really works and not fight against her.

How is anybody supposed to make a statement when you provide no details?  But I can certainly envision what you are stating being true and unremarkable.

So how about you just state clearly and unambiguously what you are talking about.  Show the circuit, flesh out all of the details, what meter or meters are you using, etc.?

Electronics is not done in text.  Please provide all the information.

[rickfriedrich]

Like I said, you have a problem with even simple statements that are said to you. It may be intentional or it may be just a personal problem of yours. idk. To say "I just asked you a question" is false. Go back and read what you said. Hopefully can can save yourself from your own rudeness and prejudice. There is no profit in debating with someone like you. You are bent on attack and cannot see your own insults and blindness. I am not expecting you to believe me in anything. But at least give respect. You believe what you want to. Like I said, go back to living in your slave box that is constructed with a meter that ensures you limit yourself with such living.

You don't need to play the wounded puppy.  Nor should you play straw man and put words in my mouth.   Based on the limited amount of information you provided I was just speculating on a scenario, and I posed it to you as a question with no malice or bad words in the question.  I just asked you a question.

As far as what you state above, then same as my previous post.  Please provide as much information as you can including schematics, diagrams, waveforms, measurements, etc.  If you showed exactly what you are talking about, then it can be explained.  There is a good chance that the explanation would have to be taught to you also, based on what I have seen of you in the past.  So whatever your claims are above, they are almost certainly not in the least bit remarkable at all.  That is the recurring issue that crops up with people like yourself and JB.  No amount of playing the wounded butterfly or doing any pseudo-science speculating or any of your own name-calling is going to change that.

I am assuming that you don't know me and so you are prejudging me.  You can't prejudge me and you don't know what I understand or do not understand.  The likelihood is that I understand more than you think.  Then there are others around here that are much more knowledgeable than me.

For me, for the last seven years I have watched the JB scene on an off.  I know that you split with JB but I don't know all the details and I really don't need to know the story.  So I am fully aware of you and have watched many clips by you and read you in the past.   In the old days of Google Video I even watched your long clip where you show a Bedini motor "self runner."  It looks like you are perhaps in a basement of a house and you had a crudely made Bedini motor built around a bicycle wheel.  Your claims of a "self runner" in that clip fall flat - nothing could have been further from the truth.  You relative knowledge is pretty much revealed in that clip, although that clip is quite old now so you could be much more knowledgeable now.   But honestly I am not getting the vibe.

Fake claims and tall tales = more DVDs sold, more book downloads, more heads at a conference.   That's the vibe that I have always gotten from JB and also from you.

The "sceptics and engineers don't know or understand what we are doing" is the Big Lie.  I know that you have to repeat it all the time so that it becomes second nature and people start to believe you.  The truth is that is a LIE, and based on observing you in the past, the average experimenter that truly knows what they are doing would knock over every "they don't understand this new stuff that is not in books" argument with ease.  It's all in books and you guys typically play with electronics at the "high school keener" level but without properly being able to explain why the neons light.  Instead of explaining why the neons light, you will say it is "radiant energy."  Likewise, "voltage with no current" to describe a discharging inductor is so bad that it is "not even wrong."

That's your reality check Rick.  In your line of business, truth and reality are not good for sales.

MileHigh

[MileHigh]

Rick:

I ain't living in no slave box.  I have given you my opinions and you should take them to heart.  From what I have seen, for years you have been "playing the electronics guy" like some character in a commercial.  You know, "I am not a doctor, but I play one on TV."  A person that has no knowledge about electronics can go to your conference, meet you, and think you are the real thing.  Meanwhile I could be standing next to the two of you listening to what you have to say and almost freaking out at the words that are actually coming out of your mouth.

How do you measure the power output into the charging battery only using the basic stuff that you typically have on any experimenter's bench?

I bet that you can't answer that question.  And that highlights the contrasts:  You have been pitching the "wonders of pulse motors" for seven or eight years and you don't even know how to measure the output power.  Chances are the only thing that you can do is tell your customers to measure the charging battery voltage from time to time.  And of course, that doesn't even answer the question.

MileHigh