Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[picowatt]

Picowatt, I think that the output power measurements are reliable:  The power to the bulb is demonstrably well decoupled and sanity check tests using the DC supply produce similar observable results.  That leaves the input side power measurements to resolve.  It will take a whole lot to throw a wrench into conservation of energy.  The vastly most probable situation is that the measurements are off, even though they seem deceptively simple.  I am game to walk through the process one step at a time:  See what well decoupled measurements show first.  If they show what seems impossible, then the next step is to devise further measurements such as a self loop.  If one has ~10V and ~17W coming out of something that needs ~13V and ~9W input, the power converter to go between the two is undemanding.

MarkE,

I agree with all you say.  Although we have yet to see a scope shot of the noise floor on the input side, Tinman seems confident that it is adequately clean.  As a black box, looking at only the in and out measurements, I must admit that it is, at the least, a bit of a puzzler.

As for needing a power converter, I believe he stated a >50V no load output and he can do 10.4V with his 17watt load.  It would not seem unreasonable to expect at least the required 13-14 volts from the output (as required for the input) when the output is loaded with <10watts.  Point being, would any sort of converter be required at all?

I hope Tinman will indulge us in the near future and provide a scope capture of the input noise floor.

PW

[MarkE]

MarkE,

I agree with all you say.  Although we have yet to see a scope shot of the noise floor on the input side, Tinman seems confident that it is adequately clean.  As a black box, looking at only the in and out measurements, I must admit that it is, at the least, a bit of a puzzler.

As for needing a power converter, I believe he stated a >50V no load output and he can do 10.4V with his 17watt load.  It would not seem unreasonable to expect at least the required 13-14 volts from the output (as required for the input) when the output is loaded with <10watts.  Point being, would any sort of converter be required at all?

I hope Tinman will indulge us in the near future and provide a scope capture of the input noise floor.

PW

A converter may be needed because the input and output do not share a circuit common.

When the circuit is active, the motor constant appears to increase:  Higher BEMF constant and higher torque constant.  So, the motor slows down while drawing less current.  No surprise there: the shaft is not driving any appreciable mechanical load.  We see the more or less free running speed for the motor. 

The interesting part is the apparent 9W in and pretty solidly confirmed ~17W out.  We shall see what Tinman's next video shows.

[picowatt]

A converter may be needed because the input and output do not share a circuit common.

When the circuit is active, the motor constant appears to increase:  Higher BEMF constant and higher torque constant.  So, the motor slows down while drawing less current.  No surprise there: the shaft is not driving any appreciable mechanical load.  We see the more or less free running speed for the motor. 

The interesting part is the apparent 9W in and pretty solidly confirmed ~17W out.  We shall see what Tinman's next video shows.

MarkE,

it did not appear to affect the circuit's operation when the input/output reference points were connected via the scope probe grounds.  Perhaps testing a more intentional connection of those two points is in order.

PW

[synchro1]

Tinman's FET is connecting the "Bucking Coils, not causing a "dead short" like in the "Piggyback Coil" in the video. Maybe Tinman has a Reed Switch hidden in his Rotary Transformer?

[picowatt]

Tinman's FET is connecting the "Bucking Coils, not causing a "dead short" like in the "Piggyback Coil" in the video. Maybe Tinman has a Reed Switch hidden in his Rotary Transformer?

Not according to Tinman...

PW