Partnered Output Coils - Free Energy

[tinman]

Right there is a big fallacy:  You are comparing power and energy.  I can come up with all kinds of situations with solenoids and electric motors where just changing the winding will make a huge difference in the power dissipation for the same static applied force.  This is actually a very real engineering consideration in the design of a lot of electromechanical machinery.If you wanted to show that the PM is adding energy to the system then you will have to evaluate energy.  The continuous input power to the electromagnet in short order masks the energy difference required to establish the respective magnetic fields:  One stronger with the magnet and one weaker with the ferrite keeper.

The electromagnet fields strength remains the same.
This dose not answer the question posed in my test.

[MarkE]

That used to be the case but at the sample rates these days it's near impossible to hear the difference. now I'm confused though. Based on marks comment on newer scopes vs older ones should I go for an analogue one or purchase the rigor I'm looking at? I guess that is a question for TK

It depends on what you want to look at.  It also greatly depends on whether you are willing to take the time to learn how to use the scope properly.  If you do a good job setting up your triggering and set the appropriate sweep interval for what you are looking at, then the 1054 should perform very well for you.

[TinselKoala]

This dose not answer the question in regards to the test i put forth.

You can refuse to acknowledge that it does address the question, certainly. That doesn't make you right.

Your described apparatus for that "test" introduces several variables that can affect the interpretation of the results. Just ask any Dean Drive or Cox or Sandy Kidd system builder about how springs and scales interact when subject to mechanical oscillations.

[picowatt]

There are lawful restrictions that can be enforced should the time come that those who make those laws choose to enforce them.

Tinman,

Can you tell us what those "lawful restrictions" are?  What laws do they relate to?

PW

[tinman]

Drop a rubber ball onto concrete and measure the height of bounce. Now drop the same ball from the same height onto soft sand. The ball dropped on concrete clearly bounces higher. Where did the "extra energy output" come from?

There was no extra energy output,as the energy available is set with the balls mass,and height from which it was dropped.The very same is applicable in my test. The energy input remains the same,as dose the magnetic field produced around the coil. But the energy output is increased simply by adding a PM to the system.